Not sure about the date question, but to answer your second one, they will play both type recordings. The reproducer swivels so vertical cut recordings can be played with a Pathe-type ball stylus. Ray W.
----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce78rpm" <bruce78...@comcast.net> To: "Antique phonograph discussion list for pre-1930 phonographs" <phon...@oldcrank.com> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Trying to complete my Little Wonder phonograph > Do these little machines actually predate the Little Wonder Records put out > by Columbia? Since they were mfg. by the Boston Talking machine Co. I assume > that they originally used the name "Little Wonder" before the Columbia > Records. Did these machines play both vertical and lateral groove > recordings? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Wilenzick" <rwilenz...@cox.net> > To: "Antique phonograph discussion list for pre-1930 phonographs" > <phon...@oldcrank.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Trying to complete my Little Wonder phonograph > > > > My Little Wonder has a winding key, not a crank. The shaft part may be > > original as it looks old, but the handle of the key is clearly a > > reproduction. > > The shaft has two parts, a steel inner rod approx. 3/4 in. long and 3/16 > > in.dia. that fits into the machine, and a surrounding brass tube that has > > the "slot" you describe in it. The brass is about 1.5 in. long and 1/4 > in. > > diameter. The handle for this "key" is steel and soldered into a slot at > > the end. The handle was clearly fabricated by someone who did not solder > it > > in exactly straight. I have always seen cranks on pictures of these > > machines, and wondered if a key type was also used originally. > > Ray W. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <msprin...@juno.com> > > To: <phon...@oldcrank.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 8:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Trying to complete my Little Wonder phonograph > > > > > > > I can describe the piece on the machine that the crank fits into, but > not > > > the crank itself -- I've wondered exactly the same thing. It's a metal > > > sleeve that sticks out from the side of the machine about a half-inch. > > > There is a "slot" across that sleeve that is perpendicular to the edge > on > > > one side and tapered on the other -- meaning that if you use the slot to > > > turn the sleeve in the correct direction the gears wind, and if you turn > > > it the wrong direction it slides right up the tapering. This slot is > > > about a quarter-inch deep. I've seen cranks that were shaped like keys, > > > and cranks that looked like regular cranks, but I've never seen an > > > original. All of the books I've seen that have pictures of Little > Wonder > > > phonographs always say that the cranks shown are not original. > > > > > > I had a crank made by Charlie Weatherbee that has a small length of > metal > > > at the tip to fit in the sleeve for stability, and then has a "nail" > > > across the crank to fit into the slots. > > > > > > Merle > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:31:44 -0500 "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@bu.edu> > > > writes: > > > > Can anyone provide me with a description of what an original little > > > > wonder crank looks like? ID, OD, thread size, etc? > > > > > > > > Ron L > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com > > > > [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] > > > > On Behalf Of msprin...@juno.com > > > > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:13 PM > > > > To: phon...@oldcrank.com > > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Trying to complete my Little Wonder phonograph > > > > > > > > I may have asked on this list before -- please forgive me if I have > > > > (early Alzheimers... or at least that's a convenient excuse). > > > > > > > > I have had a Little Wonder phonograph for a number of years (you can > > > > see > > > > pictures on my site: > > > > http://www.littlewonderrecords.com/gramophone.html > > > > -- click on the >> at the bottom to scroll through the views). > > > > > > > > I am looking for an original crank and the thumbscrew that held the > > > > reproducer in place. I'd even be willing to buy an entire Little > > > > Wonder > > > > phonograph to get those parts if anyone has one they'd like to part > > > > with. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Merle > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-l mailing list > > > > phon...@oldcrank.com > > > > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-l mailing list > > > > phon...@oldcrank.com > > > > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-l mailing list > > > phon...@oldcrank.com > > > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-l mailing list > > phon...@oldcrank.com > > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com