Thank you Randy. Although, I'm not sure I've got the knack of this email digest thing. I've never seen this system before. Is it just that everyone emails everyone else on every email?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 222 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II ([email protected]) 2. Searching... (john robles) 3. Re: Searching...Carriage question (Steven Medved) 4. Transitional Style Victor The Second? (bruce78rpm) 5. Re: Searching...Carriage question (john robles) 6. Re: Transitional Style Victor The Second? (john robles) 7. Re: Transitional Style Victor The Second? ([email protected]) 8. Re: Transitional Style Victor The Second? (bruce78rpm) 9. Re: Transitional Style Victor The Second? (bruce78rpm) 10. Re: Transitional Style Victor The Second? (john robles) 11. Slip-In Elbow (Silverman, Adam M.) 12. Re: Slip-In Elbow (David Dazer) 13. HMV Lumiere Gramophone (Bruce Mercer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:18:10 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello: I am not a Victor collector, but many of the folks here are, and I am sure they can help you, if anyone can. I just wanted to welcome you to the list. You will not find a nicer, friendlier, and more helpful group of people on the Internet than the ones on this list. Randy Minor ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:02:50 -0800 (PST) From: john robles <[email protected]> Subject: [Phono-L] Searching... To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Can anyone help me locate a cabinet for an Edison Gem? Mine is the maroon model D, but anything after the B should work. I can also use the four screws that fasten the base to the metal case. I also need the metal ring and tiny screw that hold the mandrel on, should be the same size as for the Fireside. Thank you! John Robles ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:11:38 -0500 From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Searching...Carriage question To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi John, Do you know if the Gem and Fireside carriages are interchangeable? Will the large Fireside B carriage fit on a Gem? Thanks, Steve > >Can anyone help me locate a cabinet for an Edison Gem? Mine is the >maroon >model D, but anything after the B should work. I can also use the four >screws that fasten the base to the metal case. I also need the metal ring >and tiny screw that hold the mandrel on, should be the same size as for the >Fireside. >Thank you! >John Robles ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:57:29 -0500 From: "bruce78rpm" <[email protected]> Subject: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <00e901c5e4d0$f32f9700$6401a...@custom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a completely original Victor II Gramophone which does not possess the measurements that are outlined in "Look For the Dog". The description in LFTD for the original Victor II states, "Although in the later years the instruments appeared to be quite similar in design (to the Victor I), the original Victor II was about 1 1/2" deeper and wider the Victor I". These additional inches would make the first design of the Victor II to be about 13 1/2 Wide compared to the Victor I which was 12" wide. However my Victor II is 12" by 12" by 6/1/2" high which means that it is very similar in dimensions to the Victor I which was 12" by 12" by 5 7/8". Now this is possible of course if my machine was the so called later style as referred to in LFTD, but the description also states that in the later style the ribbed corner columns were deleted when a restyled cabinet patterned after that of the Victor 1 was introduced in April of 1909, and my Victor II still has the ribbed corner column s. I am guessing therefore that this must be a transitional styling, still possessing the classic ribbed corner columns of the original Victor II but trimmed down in size to just about the same as the Victor I. Does anyone else have one these "Transitional" style Victor II's in there possession? Do my assumptions sound logical? The serial number of this machine is 52788. Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:43:12 -0800 (PST) From: john robles <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Searching...Carriage question To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I was just looking at my Fireside top mount carriage and the Gem, they look like they might interchange, however the Gem is not setup to carry a cygnet crane, which the Fireside B carriage is designed for. I suppose you might use a floor or table crane and a Tizit, and mount a morning glory of some sort. I have never seen a Gem with the top mount carriage, however, so they might not work out. The arrangement of the back rods and the height of the straight edge seem similar on both models, but I kind of think putting the Fireside B carriage on a Gem would be like putting cat's paws on a duck. ;-) John Steven Medved <[email protected]> wrote: Hi John, Do you know if the Gem and Fireside carriages are interchangeable? Will the large Fireside B carriage fit on a Gem? Thanks, Steve > >Can anyone help me locate a cabinet for an Edison Gem? Mine is the >maroon >model D, but anything after the B should work. I can also use the four >screws that fasten the base to the metal case. I also need the metal ring >and tiny screw that hold the mandrel on, should be the same size as for the >Fireside. >Thank you! >John Robles _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:44:28 -0800 (PST) From: john robles <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sure its not a Crapophone with a Victor II ID Plate? :-) Just kidding..can you link a picture? It sounds interesting. John bruce78rpm <[email protected]> wrote: I have a completely original Victor II Gramophone which does not possess the measurements that are outlined in "Look For the Dog". The description in LFTD for the original Victor II states, "Although in the later years the instruments appeared to be quite similar in design (to the Victor I), the original Victor II was about 1 1/2" deeper and wider the Victor I". These additional inches would make the first design of the Victor II to be about 13 1/2 Wide compared to the Victor I which was 12" wide. However my Victor II is 12" by 12" by 6/1/2" high which means that it is very similar in dimensions to the Victor I which was 12" by 12" by 5 7/8". Now this is possible of course if my machine was the so called later style as referred to in LFTD, but the description also states that in the later style the ribbed corner columns were deleted when a restyled cabinet patterned after that of the Victor 1 was introduced in April of 1909, and my Victor II still has the ribbed corner column s. I am guessing therefore that this must be a transitional styling, still possessing the classic ribbed corner columns of the original Victor II but trimmed down in size to just about the same as the Victor I. Does anyone else have one these "Transitional" style Victor II's in there possession? Do my assumptions sound logical? The serial number of this machine is 52788. Bruce _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:02:29 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" hi all bob baumbach has a new book out ( two years ago that is ) that has all the measurements and different models with in the models check it out zono ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:09:44 -0500 From: "bruce78rpm" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <002101c5e4db$09593860$6401a...@custom> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ahhh yes, maybe that is it. I am using a Look for the Dog which is quite old. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? > hi all > bob baumbach has a new book out ( two years ago that is ) that has all > the measurements and different models with in the models check it out > zono > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:12:12 -0500 From: "bruce78rpm" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000901c5e526$d47e92b0$6401a...@custom> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hmmm, yes I think I will order that book, What is the title? In the meantime, can anyone that has the book confirm the dimensions and style of my particular Victor II? and the dates that it was offered? Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? > hi all > bob baumbach has a new book out ( two years ago that is ) that has all the > measurements and different models with in the models > check it out > zono > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 06:08:19 -0800 (PST) From: john robles <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi It is the Victor Data Book. Excellent volume with tons of new information, showing all the different variants of each machine. I had no idea there were so many changes made to each model. The Victor II has ten variants shown by itself! The first two variants do not have the dimensions shown, but the third one, which came out in March 20, 1905, was the first with a ten inch turntable of pressed steel. Before that they were 7" and 8", made of cast iron. The types came out as follows, in chronological order: Vic II, Vic II with a few changes, Vic II Type M, then Vic II types A throughF. The dimensions of the VIc II type M, which I assume yours is, are 6-3/4"x11-3/4"x11-3/4". All models after that are 6-13/16"x13-5/8"x13-5/8". The final model, type F, is 7x14x14. Hope this helps. John Robles bruce78rpm <[email protected]> wrote: Hmmm, yes I think I will order that book, What is the title? In the meantime, can anyone that has the book confirm the dimensions and style of my particular Victor II? and the dates that it was offered? Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Transitional Style Victor The Second? > hi all > bob baumbach has a new book out ( two years ago that is ) that has all the > measurements and different models with in the models > check it out > zono > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:46:11 -0500 From: "Silverman, Adam M." <[email protected]> Subject: [Phono-L] Slip-In Elbow To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <b5c723c232eac34396884d1d1d1fa4910134c...@mail01-phl.wolfblock.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was told the slip-in elbow was used on Victor II machines, but I don't know this for sure. I've done some research and my best guess is that I have a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II, made in England. Not sure of the date. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 221 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Pathe Phonographs (Robert Plavzic) 2. My new Zonophone (Robert Plavzic) 3. Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 ([email protected]) 4. Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 (Steven Medved) 5. Re: Wonderful Windups (Dan Kj-) 6. Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II (Silverman, Adam M.) 7. Re: Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II (Andrew Baron) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:28:54 +0000 From: "Robert Plavzic" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Phonographs To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello Try www.romfi.com, there is the largest selection that I have seen (could be larger though the database seems to be still increasing as people add info). I do not remember the price overview to be too complete eithr, though the potential is there. What model did you wish to know about particularly? regards Rob >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> >To: Antique Phonograph List ><[email protected]>,<[email protected]> >Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Phonographs >Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:03:46 +0000 > >Hi all!, > Does anyone know of a good reference for Pathe phonographs? I'm >looking for models, pictures and current values. > >Thanks, >Pat >_______________________________________________ >Phono-L mailing list >[email protected] > >Phono-L Archive >http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:58:04 +0000 From: "Robert Plavzic" <[email protected]> Subject: [Phono-L] My new Zonophone To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello Was very happy to pick up an unusual model. Have a look at http://www.zonophone.netfirms.com (Machines) its in the 1903 group Zonophone Tall Case & Side Start (Larger model France). The case is superb - excluding of course the usual worm holes. on 2 sides it has a very involved marquetry with walnut inlay. Unfortunately the machine is at the moment only case - motor - turntable. The front mount arm is very similar to the MS special arm. Does anyone know the history of Zonophone France, as they seem to have made machines specifically for the french market that were not mainstream Zonophone - though the transfer was? thanks Rob ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:14:40 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" hi all the smythes are great people to deal with and very honest happy collecting ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:54:27 -0500 From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The Smiths are one of the few people who make parts of outstanding quality. Steve >I can vouch for the quality of the parts at www.wwindups.com. I got a >bracket for my Victor 9-16 and it was superb. > >Bruce > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:15:24 -0500 From: "Dan Kj-" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wonderful Windups To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000701c5e3f9$84cbfc90$6400a...@lap> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Indeed! Their $50 Orthophonic bracket (a bit more now, I think) made my $25 Credenza into a thing of beauty (well, a thing of utility - it was as beautiful as it will ever get ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 > The Smiths are one of the few people who make parts of outstanding > quality. > > Steve > >>I can vouch for the quality of the parts at www.wwindups.com. I got a >>bracket for my Victor 9-16 and it was superb. >> >>Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:11:25 -0500 From: "Silverman, Adam M." <[email protected]> Subject: [Phono-L] Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <b5c723c232eac34396884d1d1d1fa4910134c...@mail01-phl.wolfblock.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi there. This is my first post to this site. I have recently acquired what I believe to be a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II gramophone style phonograph (a real English Victor, not a crap-o-phone). The rear tone-arm bracket requires a "slip-in" style horn elbow, which I do not have. The rear bracket is identical to the one pictured here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6575393292&rd=1&sspag ename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 I have a horn (probably not original) with a "bayonet" style attachment for a standard Victor elbow. What I need is the proper slip-in elbow (and then I'll need to see about getting the correct horn). The opening in the tone arm/bracket for the horn elbow is about 1 3/4 inches. I've been told that the horn elbow from a Victor II would be the correct size, but I don't know this for sure. Does anyone know where I could purchase such a thing? Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:44:06 -0700 From: Andrew Baron <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed The horn elbow opening in the top of the rear-mount Victor II back bracket measures 1 1/2", and at this diameter is only about 3/32" deep. Then it steps down in diameter as it goes deeper in. At the top of this receptacle, at the rear, there's a thumb screw and bracket for retaining the flared rim of the horn elbow. This rim (at the bottom edge of the elbow) is about 3/16" thick. Although I don't know where an elbow is available, I hope this will help you in your quest. Andy Baron On Nov 8, 2005, at 8:11 AM, Silverman, Adam M. wrote: > Hi there. This is my first post to this site. I have recently > acquired > what I believe to be a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II gramophone > style phonograph (a real English Victor, not a crap-o-phone). The rear > tone-arm bracket requires a "slip-in" style horn elbow, which I do not > have. The rear bracket is identical to the one pictured here: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&item=6575393292&rd=1&sspag > ename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 > > I have a horn (probably not original) with a "bayonet" style attachment > for a standard Victor elbow. What I need is the proper slip-in elbow > (and then I'll need to see about getting the correct horn). The > opening > in the tone arm/bracket for the horn elbow is about 1 3/4 inches. I've > been told that the horn elbow from a Victor II would be the correct > size, but I don't know this for sure. > > Does anyone know where I could purchase such a thing? Any advice would > be appreciated. > > Many thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 221 *************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: David Dazer <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Slip-In Elbow To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a late V-II and it uses a slip in elbow. Does you machine use a bullet brake or the later type like on Victrolas? Dave "Silverman, Adam M." <[email protected]> wrote: I was told the slip-in elbow was used on Victor II machines, but I don't know this for sure. I've done some research and my best guess is that I have a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II, made in England. Not sure of the date. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 221 Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Pathe Phonographs (Robert Plavzic) 2. My new Zonophone (Robert Plavzic) 3. Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 ([email protected]) 4. Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 (Steven Medved) 5. Re: Wonderful Windups (Dan Kj-) 6. Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II (Silverman, Adam M.) 7. Re: Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II (Andrew Baron) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:28:54 +0000 From: "Robert Plavzic" Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Phonographs To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello Try www.romfi.com, there is the largest selection that I have seen (could be larger though the database seems to be still increasing as people add info). I do not remember the price overview to be too complete eithr, though the potential is there. What model did you wish to know about particularly? regards Rob >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List >To: Antique Phonograph List > , >Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Phonographs >Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:03:46 +0000 > >Hi all!, > Does anyone know of a good reference for Pathe phonographs? I'm >looking for models, pictures and current values. > >Thanks, >Pat >_______________________________________________ >Phono-L mailing list >[email protected] > >Phono-L Archive >http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:58:04 +0000 From: "Robert Plavzic" Subject: [Phono-L] My new Zonophone To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello Was very happy to pick up an unusual model. Have a look at http://www.zonophone.netfirms.com (Machines) its in the 1903 group Zonophone Tall Case & Side Start (Larger model France). The case is superb - excluding of course the usual worm holes. on 2 sides it has a very involved marquetry with walnut inlay. Unfortunately the machine is at the moment only case - motor - turntable. The front mount arm is very similar to the MS special arm. Does anyone know the history of Zonophone France, as they seem to have made machines specifically for the french market that were not mainstream Zonophone - though the transfer was? thanks Rob ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:14:40 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" hi all the smythes are great people to deal with and very honest happy collecting ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:54:27 -0500 From: "Steven Medved" Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The Smiths are one of the few people who make parts of outstanding quality. Steve >I can vouch for the quality of the parts at www.wwindups.com. I got a >bracket for my Victor 9-16 and it was superb. > >Bruce > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:15:24 -0500 From: "Dan Kj-" Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Wonderful Windups To: "Antique Phonograph List" Message-ID: <000701c5e3f9$84cbfc90$6400a...@lap> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Indeed! Their $50 Orthophonic bracket (a bit more now, I think) made my $25 Credenza into a thing of beauty (well, a thing of utility - it was as beautiful as it will ever get ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Medved" To: Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 219 > The Smiths are one of the few people who make parts of outstanding > quality. > > Steve > >>I can vouch for the quality of the parts at www.wwindups.com. I got a >>bracket for my Victor 9-16 and it was superb. >> >>Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:11:25 -0500 From: "Silverman, Adam M." Subject: [Phono-L] Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi there. This is my first post to this site. I have recently acquired what I believe to be a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II gramophone style phonograph (a real English Victor, not a crap-o-phone). The rear tone-arm bracket requires a "slip-in" style horn elbow, which I do not have. The rear bracket is identical to the one pictured here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6575393292&rd=1&sspag ename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 I have a horn (probably not original) with a "bayonet" style attachment for a standard Victor elbow. What I need is the proper slip-in elbow (and then I'll need to see about getting the correct horn). The opening in the tone arm/bracket for the horn elbow is about 1 3/4 inches. I've been told that the horn elbow from a Victor II would be the correct size, but I don't know this for sure. Does anyone know where I could purchase such a thing? Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:44:06 -0700 From: Andrew Baron Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seeking "Slip-In" Horn Elbow for Victor II To: Antique Phonograph List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed The horn elbow opening in the top of the rear-mount Victor II back bracket measures 1 1/2", and at this diameter is only about 3/32" deep. Then it steps down in diameter as it goes deeper in. At the top of this receptacle, at the rear, there's a thumb screw and bracket for retaining the flared rim of the horn elbow. This rim (at the bottom edge of the elbow) is about 3/16" thick. Although I don't know where an elbow is available, I hope this will help you in your quest. Andy Baron On Nov 8, 2005, at 8:11 AM, Silverman, Adam M. wrote: > Hi there. This is my first post to this site. I have recently > acquired > what I believe to be a His Master's Voice Junior Monarch II gramophone > style phonograph (a real English Victor, not a crap-o-phone). The rear > tone-arm bracket requires a "slip-in" style horn elbow, which I do not > have. The rear bracket is identical to the one pictured here: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&item=6575393292&rd=1&sspag > ename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 > > I have a horn (probably not original) with a "bayonet" style attachment > for a standard Victor elbow. What I need is the proper slip-in elbow > (and then I'll need to see about getting the correct horn). The > opening > in the tone arm/bracket for the horn elbow is about 1 3/4 inches. I've > been told that the horn elbow from a Victor II would be the correct > size, but I don't know this for sure. > > Does anyone know where I could purchase such a thing? Any advice would > be appreciated. > > Many thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 221 *************************************** _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] Phono-L Archive http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:46:38 -0600 From: "Bruce Mercer" <[email protected]> Subject: [Phono-L] HMV Lumiere Gramophone To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000601c5e555$8996f600$af9bb...@vaio> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original A friend asked my opinion of one of these table top machines. He found one for 1850.00 and wanted to know if that is close to the true value. There was one on ebay in the UK that nobody bid on for 2000.00 plus, opening bid. This type of thing is not my forte and I told him I would see what I could find out about it. (I think it was made in '25 or '26) Thanks Bruce ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list [email protected] http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 222 ***************************************
