<blush> I didn't know you were on this group, Mike!! "Michael F. Khanchalian" <mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com> wrote: Thank you for the kind comments John.
I think, Keith, that you have some pretty good ideas here as shared by John and Al for both wax and blue Amberol restoration. Lots of practice on more worthless broken cylinders builds your skills of course. Best of luck! I will be happy as usual to help whoever desires more extensive help at Union next week. Kindest regards, Michael Khanchalian (cylinder doc) ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:57 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders > I once did it by heating a dental tool (you can pick up all shapes and sizes at flea market tool booths) and touching it to the inside of the crack. Of course this could potentially make it explode too for all I know, but it worked for me. I then ran some glue over the repair (between the internal rings of an Edison cylinder. If yours is smooth inside this will not work). > John > > "Carter, Keith" wrote: > The cylinders I have are not that expensive. > Thought I could do a repair myself instead of just leaving them sit and > collecting dust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:41 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders > > Dr. Mike Khanchalian (the Cylinder Doctor) does fantastic repairs to cracked > cylinders using heat, dental waxes and tools. He fixed a cracked Sarah > Bernhardt cylinder that I had. Afterwards you couldn't hear the repair. I > highly recommend him, especially if it is a precious cylinder. If you want > to use him, let me know and I can make the connection. > John Robles > > "Carter, Keith" wrote: > Hello List, > Would like to pass these questions along to everyone. > > Is there any way to repair a black (Edison or other) cylinder if they have a > crack? > > Is there any way to repair a Blue cylinder that has missing plaster on the > inner edge? Re-shape it so there is no flat spot on the playing side from > the missing plaster. About ½ inch deep and 1 inch long missing on the inside > edge of the beginning song side. > > Thanks, > Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From Keith.Carter Fri Jun 4 04:54:40 2004 From: Keith.Carter (Carter, Keith) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:43 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders Message-ID: <97c7ef59a387d6118a8a000802564c4603169...@hqgtnexch1.hr.doe.gov> Thanks, I'll keep this information. keith -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of Phil O'Keefe Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:47 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders With the Blue Amberols, if you are only missing only a few small chunks of plaster you can repair the records fairly easily. I use "1 Time Spackling" compound from Red Devil. This stuff has a pretty low density and contains a minimal amount of moisture. Just spread it into the cavity and smooth it out with your finger. Use some rough grit sandpaper to take out rough spots after it dries. I've saved several records in my collection by using this method. You may be out of luck if you are missing too much plaster. The record's shape can get too distorted to repair easily. The flat spots you mention are very frustrating. I toyed with the idea of making some sort of braces to push out the flat spots while the spackling compound dries. Even if you managed to smooth out most of the flat spots, you would probably still hear where they were. If the record is only worth a few dollars, it's not worth the time and effort. -Phil Visit my Edison phonograph website: http://www.engineeringexpert.net/edphono.htm On 6/3/04 12:45 PM, "Carter, Keith" <keith.car...@hq.doe.gov> wrote: > Hello List, > Would like to pass these questions along to everyone. > > Is there any way to repair a black (Edison or other) cylinder if they have a > crack? > > Is there any way to repair a Blue cylinder that has missing plaster on the > inner edge? Re-shape it so there is no flat spot on the playing side from > the missing plaster. About ? inch deep and 1 inch long missing on the inside > edge of the beginning song side. > > Thanks, > Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From Keith.Carter Fri Jun 4 04:59:58 2004 From: Keith.Carter (Carter, Keith) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:43 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders Message-ID: <97c7ef59a387d6118a8a000802564c4603169...@hqgtnexch1.hr.doe.gov> Yes, good ideas. Plan on keeping the e-mail's on this topic along with the other questions I have asked over time. keith -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On Behalf Of Michael F. Khanchalian Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:44 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders Thank you for the kind comments John. I think, Keith, that you have some pretty good ideas here as shared by John and Al for both wax and blue Amberol restoration. Lots of practice on more worthless broken cylinders builds your skills of course. Best of luck! I will be happy as usual to help whoever desires more extensive help at Union next week. Kindest regards, Michael Khanchalian (cylinder doc) ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phon...@oldcrank.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:57 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders > I once did it by heating a dental tool (you can pick up all shapes and sizes at flea market tool booths) and touching it to the inside of the crack. Of course this could potentially make it explode too for all I know, but it worked for me. I then ran some glue over the repair (between the internal rings of an Edison cylinder. If yours is smooth inside this will not work). > John > > "Carter, Keith" <keith.car...@hq.doe.gov> wrote: > The cylinders I have are not that expensive. > Thought I could do a repair myself instead of just leaving them sit and > collecting dust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.com] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 2:41 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] cracked cylinders > > Dr. Mike Khanchalian (the Cylinder Doctor) does fantastic repairs to cracked > cylinders using heat, dental waxes and tools. He fixed a cracked Sarah > Bernhardt cylinder that I had. Afterwards you couldn't hear the repair. I > highly recommend him, especially if it is a precious cylinder. If you want > to use him, let me know and I can make the connection. > John Robles > > "Carter, Keith" wrote: > Hello List, > Would like to pass these questions along to everyone. > > Is there any way to repair a black (Edison or other) cylinder if they have a > crack? > > Is there any way to repair a Blue cylinder that has missing plaster on the > inner edge? Re-shape it so there is no flat spot on the playing side from > the missing plaster. About ? inch deep and 1 inch long missing on the inside > edge of the beginning song side. > > Thanks, > Keith > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com > _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list phon...@oldcrank.com http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From pokeefe571 Fri Jun 4 08:52:33 2004 From: pokeefe571 (Phil O'Keefe) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:43 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] I am leaving on Sunday for Union In-Reply-To: <20040603.195316.492.7...@webmail06.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <bce5e905.8600%pokeefe...@netzero.com> Randy: I live about 20 miles from Union, so my drive will be a piece of cake. I never drove as far as Arizona, but if you can make it to Denver, you can take I-70 to Nebraska and get on I-80 and head west into Illinois. When you get into Illinois, get off I-80 and take I-88 east. Get off I-88 at IL Rt. 47 and take that north to US 20. Head west on US 20 and that will take you to Donley's Wild West Town in Union. It's a pretty straight route between here and western Nebraska and the speed limit is 70mph most of the way. Pretty boring scenery until you get to Omaha. We made it from Denver to our home in 14 hours driving about 5 mph over the speed limit most of the way. -Phil O'Keefe Visit my Edison phonograph website: http://www.engineeringexpert.net/edphono.htm On 6/3/04 9:52 PM, "mrprojection...@juno.com" <mrprojection...@juno.com> wrote: > > Hi I am leaving on this Sunday for Union from Arizona and I am Driving > Does anyone know a Good Route??????and where does people meet up on > wednsday,Thursday??????I am going to look for Rusty Edison Cylinder Parts > since that is what I like to Restore, The Rougher the Better.... > Thanx Randy > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-l mailing list > phon...@oldcrank.com > http://mail.oldcrank.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com >
