I find this really interesting actually. I know about machines sold in places like the UK, USA, Canada, (plenty of info especially on these three) Australia, Germany, France etc.... But what were phono markets like in the rest of the world Surely there were original machines in China, Japan etc... (I mean othere than the imported ones) and those must have catered for local tastes. I was speaking to a friend who suggested that there were a number of original chinese model phonographs???? Anyone here know of any of these original machines or a source for them. I know that Pathe produced a number of 78rpm records in China in the local languages. I remember seeing a Russian fairly decorative machine making thousands of dolllars on eBay a couple of years ago..
Cheers, Mario > George Glastris <[email protected]> wrote: > > I was speaking about proper old gramophones that just happened to have > been > made in India up through the 1930s. These were catalogued as being old > and > original, although maybe not of great quality. We never sold the > reproductions that came out later, especially the ones with obviously > new > tone arms, and HMV labels. In fact, we assisted EMI in prosecuting the > makers with trademark infringement. We did find that sometimes they > would > use old cases but replace the older motors with HMV portable motors. I > assume that it was cheaper for them to do that then repair the original. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bruce78rpm" <[email protected]> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What's the story on the original indian > machines????? > > > >I assume they were auctioned as reproduction Gramophones as opposed to > > "Restored Originals". > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Glastris" <[email protected]> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What's the story on the original indian > > machines????? > > > > > >> Quite simple,there was a market for horn gramophones in India > throughout > >> the > >> 1930s, and Swiss manufacturers like Paillard, as well as HMV who had > a > >> factory near Calcutta, continued to supply this market. That is why > >> there > >> were so many horn gramophones in India for people to import over here > and > >> especially in the UK in the 1970s, and as the supply ran out, the > Indians > >> developed their own replacements. In the early 1990s/late 1980s > there > >> was > >> a > >> small flood of these in the auction houses where I was working at the > > >> time > >> (Christie's and Phillips') and some actually made respectable prices > (in > >> the > >> low hundreds of pounds when name brand machines were making in the > mid > >> hundreds and upwards), but that didn't last long, especially as the > >> supply > >> of better quality and condition ones soon ended. > >> > >> Regards to all, > >> George Glastris > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mario Frazzetto" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:39 PM > >> Subject: [Phono-L] What's the story on the original indian > machines????? > >> > >> > >>> Hi Folks, > >>> > >>> Well I know about crapophones and frankenphones, but what is the > story > >>> on > >>> some of these early indian horn phonographs.... I see transfers for > >>> Leophones etc... > >>> > >>> Anyone know anything about early phonograph/gramophone production in > >>> India? Models? or are all Indian phonographs late model crapophones? > >>> It seems to be an unexplored side. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Mario > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Phono-L mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> Phono-L Archive > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ > >>> > >>> Support Phono-L > >>> http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: > >>> 10/14/2006 > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> > >> Phono-L Archive > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ > >> > >> Support Phono-L > >> http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > [email protected] > > > > Phono-L Archive > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ > > > > Support Phono-L > > http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: > 10/14/2006 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ > > Support Phono-L > http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank
