No apologies needed. Exports are a strange area, and overseas people are 
extremely "crafty". So one has to draw his/her own conclusion...........

Bill

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From: "Dan Kj-" <[email protected]> 

> My apologies; I didn't mean to turn that into an argument. But I will 
> gladly take Victor exports matching my description off anybody's hands, at 
> those Indian wholesale prices :) 
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From [email protected]  Sat Jan 14 20:28:42 2006
From: [email protected] (George Glastris)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:10 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] victor machine
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Ah, but Gramophone Co. and G & T machines were identified as Gramophones 
with their own model identifications, just not as Victors.  Most early cases 
were English made, just the metal parts imported.  Once the factory at Hayes 
was large enough they stopped importing the parts.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Kj-" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] victor machine


> Sorry, but that's ignorant of the facts.  Many of the machines sold by the
> Gramophone & Typewriter Company were made exactly this way, in Camden. 
> The
> reproducers carry the only mark on the entire machine.
>
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>> Right........and the phonographs coming out of India are real
>> too............
>>
>> -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> From: "Dan Kj-" <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Victor also made machines for export, with neither model numbers nor
>>> identifying marks except on the inside of the reproducer - these aren't
>>> mentioned by Baumbach, either. Victor had to make sales any way 
>>> possible,
>>> during the years before the Victrola became so popular.
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