True, brother, true......... And not those pseudo decals identifying them as Brit machines......... -------------- Original message -------------- From: "George Glastris" <[email protected]>
> Ah, but Gramophone Co. and G & T machines were identified as Gramophones > with their own model identifications, just not as Victors. Most early cases > were English made, just the metal parts imported. Once the factory at Hayes > was large enough they stopped importing the parts. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Kj-" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] victor machine > > > > Sorry, but that's ignorant of the facts. Many of the machines sold by the > > Gramophone & Typewriter Company were made exactly this way, in Camden. > > The > > reproducers carry the only mark on the entire machine. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] victor machine > > > > > >> Right........and the phonographs coming out of India are real > >> too............ > >> > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > >> From: "Dan Kj-" > >> > >>> Victor also made machines for export, with neither model numbers nor > >>> identifying marks except on the inside of the reproducer - these aren't > >>> mentioned by Baumbach, either. Victor had to make sales any way > >>> possible, > >>> during the years before the Victrola became so popular. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > [email protected] > > > > Phono-L Archive > > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 1/13/2006 > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ From [email protected] Sat Jan 14 21:46:12 2006 From: [email protected] (Daniel Melvin) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:10 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] What is the Strange Victor Upright on Ebay# 6594621420 References: <011520060017.28890.43c99492000e8978000070da22007503309f9a030a05020e9...@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002501c61996$fe7e59c0$6601a...@danslaptop> I think you are fortetting about the Douglas cabinet victors. They are indeed victors put together away from Victor. I'm not sure it is fair to say victor didn't do this. They most definately did with Douglas. I don't think it can be said they any less of a victor machine. And, they go for huge money when the very rare machines become available. I think the machine in question may have been made at the same time that the douglas cabinets were being produced. I know that vic V and vic VI douglas machines existed. They are in Fabrizio's books if anyone is interested. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is the Strange Victor Upright on Ebay# 6594621420 > Well, that depends, this phongraph had no ID plate, and it shouldn't, as > it wasn't produced by the Victor factory. As far as Victor selling motors > to unauthorised factories.......I'm not aware of such transactions. I > would have thought Baumbach would have included at least one of these in > his book(s) including later pressings. One would think after 70 + years, > one of these would appear much earlier...... > > Bill > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Dan Kj-" <[email protected]> > >> There's a very big difference between a 'frankenphone' and a custom made >> case; Victor routinely sold mechanisms to furniture makers, and products >> such as this one are desirable. Maybe not $1000++ desirable, but a lot >> more >> interesting than yet another standard Victrola off the assembly line :) >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What is the Strange Victor Upright on Ebay # >> 6594621420 >> >> >> >I too was watching this ummmm........"Frankenphone" . Needless to say, >> >there wasn't any crazy bidding on this item(apparently, he doesn't know >> >enough ppl to shill bid it up!) Nice carving, though, but it still is >> >what >> >it is.......a non Victor made machine. >> > >> > Bill >> >> >> >> >> estott wrote: >> >> Looks to me like what the seller says- a custom made case from a >> >> cabinet >> >> shop. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> Phono-L Archive >> http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/
