True, But the Douglas cabinet Victors still retain the ID plate, which I didn' 
see on this one. It does look very much like a "craftsman" made machine such as 
the one pictured in "Phonographs with Flair".

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> 
> In a message dated 1/14/2006 10:53:54 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
> [email protected] writes: 
> 
> Yep, seen them.......this isn't a Douglas machine............ 
> 
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> From: "Daniel Melvin" 
> 
> > I think you are fortetting about the Douglas cabinet victors. They are 
> > indeed victors put together away from Victor. I'm not sure it is fair to 
> say 
> > victor didn't do this. They most definately did with Douglas. I don't 
> think 
> > it can be said they any less of a victor machine. And, they go for huge 
> > money when the very rare machines become available. I think the machine in 
> > question may have been made at the same time that the douglas cabinets 
> were 
> > being produced. I know that vic V and vic VI douglas machines existed. 
> They 
> > are in Fabrizio's books if anyone is interested. 
> 
> 
> With all this talk about what is "real" and what is not, you might want to 
> look at page 52 in Fabrizio an Paul's "Phonographs with Flair". There is a 
> "Craftsman" machine and case which is very similar to the machine which was 
> offered on eBay. It is listed as being VR or "very rare". Not even a brand 
> name 
> machine! So it is all in the eye of the beholder as to what one considers 
> desireable. 
> ---Art Heller 
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From [email protected]  Mon Jan 16 13:20:24 2006
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:10 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] "special" cylinders
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
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Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Randy Minor wrote:
 
 "I didn't know there was such a thing as a rare Uncle Josh title. (Just  
kidding.) Many modern-day hobbyists find his famous laughs irritating,  after 
listening to a couple of his records."
 
This is how I got some of the best Uncle Josh cylinders I have....some of my 
collector friends find him so irritating that they just wanted to get rid of 
the cylinders by him!
 
Mike

 
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Sent: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:18:35 EST
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] "special" cylinders


 
In a message dated 1/16/2006 1:41:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I must say that in this particular case, this black lambert  Uncle Josh 
cylinder was a very rare title,


I didn't know there was such a thing as a rare Uncle Josh title. (Just  
kidding.) Many modern-day hobbyists find his famous laughs irritating,  after 
listening to a couple of his records. 
 
I happen to like him. I like the glimpses he gives into the rural, bygone  
America of my grandparents, who got married shortly after 1900. Uncle  Josh can 
also be downright funny, if you give him a chance, and use your  imagination a 
little. 
 
Randy Minor
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