Au contraire Randy!  Fleming's valve came before De Forest's, and was infact 
an Edison Effect tube adapted for radio work.  De Forest updated Fleming and 
was the self proclaimed father of radio.  Marconii invented radio as much as 
Edison invented the Phonograph.  De Forest was a bitter man who despised 
Marconi.  In the archives of the Marconi Company is a letter from De Forest 
from 1901 in which he him begs for a job saying how he much he wants to work 
for him.  When no job was given he proceeded to infringe every Marconi 
patent he could, got involved with crooked businessmen and finally lost each 
and every court case to Marconi.  The result was the Marconi Co. took over 
all of the De Forest Co. properties in the US.  So, you could say De Forest 
was a bit bitter.


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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Best sounding Phonograph


>
> In a message dated 4/13/2006 9:11:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> I  know it's still called the "Edison Effect",
> but isn't the patent Thom's as  well?
>
>
> That I do not know. I do know that Lee De Forest, the developer of the
> Audion, which was the first "practical" vacuum tube to see widespread 
> use, is
> considered by most early radio buffs to be the "father" of radio as we 
> know it,
> perhaps more so than Marconi, because the Audion brought  electrically
> amplified radio transmission, reception, and reproduction so  much closer 
> to the
> masses.
>
> Randy
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