In a message dated 6/24/2007 10:37:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

What  kind of vintage car you got?



Alright, alright, then.  First, and foremost there's "Molly Hupp," a  1918 
Model R Hupmobile tourer, and now there's "Tess," a 1917 Ford "Turtleback"  
Roadster.  Perky little bug you hafta crank start.  
 
I like 'em a bit older vintage than most of ye, I s'poze.  To keep it  more 
on topic, Molly has her choice of two phonographs, depending on the  event.  
She has the widest running boards of any old car I've ever  seen.  They easily 
support either the early Victrola 50 -- oak case in  excellent shape -- or a 
little Victor II "Humpback" (1907) for special  occasions.  Nothing beats a 
horn 
for ambiance.  
 
Tess?  Not alada room in a "T".  Maybe the Edison Standard would  go with it. 
 Tess has an actual "trunk" that could pack a few  cylinders.  She's new to 
me still and hasn't had the occasion yet for a  tour or a picnic.  The Edison 
seems to be right for it, though.
 
A side story regarding the Victrola 50 and the Hupmobile.  I hesitated  
buying this phono for Molly because it came out in 1921 and the Hupp was made 
in  
1918.  I ran that by Jerry Blais at an OTAPS meeting a few years ago.   
"Nonsense," he said.  "After you made the last payment on the Hupmobile you  
went out 
and bought a new Victrola."  Dude!  That kicked me off the  fence.  
 
Most of you will know the early VV-50 had no provision for needles or  
records, as the later version did.  For several years I packed needles in a  
little 
case but lately I've taken to using a "Tungstone" needle in the Victrola  and 
am currious to know how long it may be expected to last.  So far it's  played 
both sides of maybe 10 to 15 records.  
 
My two car's worth,
 
; )
 
Edward, in Zigzag



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From [email protected]  Mon Jun 25 02:44:07 2007
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Mon Jun 25 02:45:12 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] OT-vintage car
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

hi all 
cars are as bad as phonograhs
only have a 1971 vw convertible, 56 plymouth plaza (26 k miles on it) and a  
1950 dodge stake truck
the dodge is for sale at this point 
too little time
lol
zono



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From [email protected]  Mon Jun 25 02:59:53 2007
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Date: Mon Jun 25 03:01:55 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Re: west point clarification  IS APPRECIATED...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Greetings Howard:
 
It is very kind of you to send out this clarification on the West Point Horn. 
 There is much that went into the first book that I had no chance to correct. 
 I was sent a galley proof and quickly made many corrections to the text and 
photographs, most of which I took and printed in my dark room.  I called 
George Frow only a day after receiving the proof to tell him I was sending off 
a 
list of corrections.  At that point I was told the book had gone to press.
 
I only received profits from the books I personally sold and never recouped 
my investment in the project.  When the writing of the Companion was under way 
I had lost interest and did not wish to contribute even though I had completed 
my collection of all the Edison domestic cylinder machines.  George's 
Companion is a remarkable and wonderful expansion work which in hindsight I 
wish I 
had sent him photographs of all the machines he did not have and more 
information to add to the text.
 
One of the sad parts was that I wished to do a lot of research at the Edison 
archives but that door was closed when that crook Phil Peterson raided the 
archive of so many historic and valuable documents.  I did have my suspicions 
that the West Point Horn was from a much later period but went with what was 
given in the first book until I could disprove it.  Can you tell me where you 
found reference to the horn in a later document that shows its true usage?  I 
would find that fascinating.
 
I bought that horn from Bill Endlein!  I still have it somewhere in storage.  
I am also very glad to NOT have paid $4,650 for it.  I lost interest in 
phonographs for many years and only in the last couple of years have become a 
follower of eBay Edison sales.  You are so correct about how people bid wildly 
without knowing much about on which they are bidding.  When I see phonographic 
mutts like a Red Banner Home case on a later Model A advertised as all original 
though the serial number clearly shows it should be a black banner late A, I 
wince!  Edison machines just seem to lend themselves to kitchen table 
conglomerations of parts.  That is why it is always a good idea to ask the 
serial number 
and I wish more sellers would automatically include it in the description.
 
Kindest Regards and may all your finds be rare ones,
 
Al
 



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From [email protected]  Mon Jun 25 06:08:35 2007
From: [email protected] (Ron L)
Date: Mon Jun 25 06:10:00 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] tape residue
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

I'd still go with Goo Gone.  It won't react.  And I doubt a phono piece is
pewter.  It is probably Aluminum or pot metal.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Richard Rubin
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] tape residue

I believe the finish is actually hammered pewter.  Would lacquer thinner or 
Goo-Gone be safe on that?


>From: Andrew Baron <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
>To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] tape residue
>Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:44:52 -0600
>
>Solvent.
>
>If it's a nickel-plated arm (more durable than the gold plating),  Lacquer 
>thinner should harmlessly cut right through that stubborn  residut, melt it

>and leave the metal clean and unharmed, with two or  three successive 
>applications.  I'd make two recommendations before  embarking on this:  
>Remove the arm from the machine (by removing the  screws around the flange 
>of the black base of the arm, where it meets  the wood); and keep the 
>thinner away from the painted support, keep  it from dripping on it too.
>
>Oh yes - and do this outside or with plenty of ventilation and let it  air 
>dry thoroughly, both inside and out, before reinstalling on the  machine.
>
>Andy
>
>On Jun 24, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Richard Rubin wrote:
>
>>Greetings, everyone.  I just picked up a nice old Victrola, in  which 
>>someone had duct taped the tone arm down at some point to  keep it (I 
>>assume) from swinging around.  They left the tape on for  many years, and 
>>though it has since been removed, there is a wide  band of tape residue on

>>the arm.  Naturally, I'm looking to remove  this residue while preserving 
>>the arm's original finish.  What is  the best and/or easiest way of doing 
>>so?  Thanks in adance for your  ideas.
>>
>>--RR
>>
>>
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