Hi To follow all the questions on whether to send back the wood horn or not, here another hornish type of question. Here an anecdote from a phonograph colleague under stress in europe. I'll try not to name the country as he may drop an edison on my head if he reads this list! He bought a zonophone horn from a seller in USA over ebay, and sent the seller an email asking for postage to his address in europe, and then after receiving the postage costs, another mail with the full address. In his ebay account however he had an address in his profile active for another european country as he sometimes buys things for someone who lives there.
The seller sent the item, despite the 2 mails about postage to the given address, to the address saved in ebay - much to the surprise of the friends in that country. Problem is that he has to pay a 22.5% import tax into the wrong country, and then the 7.5% import into his home country. That is to say if the horn had been posted to the "correct" address, the import duty would have been 7.5%. in money terms this unnecessary 22.5% tax is around $95. The horn is now apparently sitting in customs, and refusing to collect it would result in it being sent back to the seller - who would then possibly have to pay shipping to the other address, or jump up and down on the horn! My friend kind of sees it as a lesson learned, and in future thinks to better get confirmation for all steps (yes, he is 100% fluent in english!), and say ONLY SEND IT TO THIS ADDRESS NOT ANY OTHER ADDRESS YOU MAY SEE IN EBAY! :-) that is to say he would pay the unnecessary $95 so as not to cause any hassle, kind of the cost of doing business globally, mistakes happen. Should I suggest that he ask the seller to contribute? thx Rob From [email protected] Mon Jul 16 13:14:37 2007 From: [email protected] (Robert Plavzic) Date: Mon Jul 16 13:16:08 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] an original crap-o-phone?? In-Reply-To: <000601c7c67b$b6f9a6c0$2f01a...@ronlherault> References: <[email protected]> <000601c7c67b$b6f9a6c0$2f01a...@ronlherault> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hi It didn't get any bids, but it is a very late horn model, John is exactly right, and I think, these types were for the export market. I'd rather save the $ toward a good Victor. I seem to remember reading that HMV in England sent the metal bits and transfers to various countries where the cases were then made with local wood according to head office plans. Also in India, spring motor machines, and 78 speed records were still being made well ito the 1960's as electricity was not available in many places, (yes, and after a short pause the industry was revived with crapophone production). Even the crapophone sellers who claim 'original antique motor' to try to point to something antique on the machine are wrong, as its usually the poor quality 60's portables that are being recycled, not HMV 102's. India did have many very rich people, even in 1900, and I have heard of some excellent machines being found there. From [email protected] Mon Jul 16 13:25:10 2007 From: [email protected] (Loran Hughes) Date: Mon Jul 16 13:26:59 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] the joys of Globalized phonographing In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> On Jul 16, 2007, at 12:56 PM, Robert Plavzic wrote: > ... ONLY SEND IT TO THIS ADDRESS NOT ANY OTHER ADDRESS YOU MAY SEE IN > EBAY! ... I'm a bit torn here. If I had a buyer tell me to ignore the eBay address and send to some other address, my first thought would be that the transaction is possibly fraudulent (unless I personally knew the buyer, of course). I can also understand the buyer's frustration, but I think I'd take it as a lesson learned - and make the appropriate address change so it doesn't happen again. Loran From [email protected] Mon Jul 16 13:45:53 2007 From: [email protected] (Rich) Date: Mon Jul 16 13:48:56 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] the joys of Globalized phonographing In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> This little problem of the seller shipping to your eBay or PayPal registered / confirmed address happens all of the time. The buyer should obtain firm confirmation from the seller as to the ship to address so as to avoid this or maintain only the desired address on file as registered / confirmed with both eBay and PayPal. The buyer made an unfortunate but common error. Look at the eBay rules and PayPal rules and the requirements for seller protection. These issues are why a lot of sellers will not ship outside of the US. On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:56:35 +0200, Robert Plavzic wrote: >Hi >To follow all the questions on whether to send back the wood horn or not, >here another hornish type of question. Here an anecdote from a phonograph >colleague under stress in europe. I'll try not to name the country as he may >drop an edison on my head if he reads this list! He bought a zonophone horn >from a seller in USA over ebay, and sent the seller an email asking for >postage to his address in europe, and then after receiving the postage >costs, another mail with the full address. In his ebay account however he >had an address in his profile active for another european country as he >sometimes buys things for someone who lives there. >The seller sent the item, despite the 2 mails about postage to the given >address, to the address saved in ebay - much to the surprise of the friends >in that country. Problem is that he has to pay a 22.5% import tax into the >wrong country, and then the 7.5% import into his home country. That is to >say if the horn had been posted to the "correct" address, the import duty >would have been 7.5%. in money terms this unnecessary 22.5% tax is around >$95. >The horn is now apparently sitting in customs, and refusing to collect it >would result in it being sent back to the seller - who would then possibly >have to pay shipping to the other address, or jump up and down on the horn! >My friend kind of sees it as a lesson learned, and in future thinks to >better get confirmation for all steps (yes, he is 100% fluent in english!), >and say ONLY SEND IT TO THIS ADDRESS NOT ANY OTHER ADDRESS YOU MAY SEE IN >EBAY! :-) that is to say he would pay the unnecessary $95 so as not to >cause any hassle, kind of the cost of doing business globally, mistakes >happen. >Should I suggest that he ask the seller to contribute? >thx >Rob >_______________________________________________ >Phono-L mailing list >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
