Please don't post a picture. I have seen it! Truthfully it's very interesting, whatever it is...... Mike From [email protected] Thu Oct 18 12:16:46 2007 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Thu Oct 18 12:17:03 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] 1931 News Articles on Edison's Death--October 18 Message-ID: <[email protected]>
'Marconi Says Edison Was 'Intellectual Giant' Rome, Oct.18 -(AP)- Guglielmo Marconi, inventor of wireless telegraphy and president of the Royal Academy of Italy, described Thomas A. Edison as a "belevolent intellectual giant" in commenting today on the American inventor's death. I wish to express, although inadequately," he said, "my deepest sympathy with the people of the United States, nay, with the whole world, for the demise of my most admired and revered friend whose inventive genius and passionate love of science contributed so greatly to the marvelous progress made in the field of research and applied science. "We must indeed bow deeply and we shall never mourn sufficiently at the passing away of such a benevolent intellectual giant whose life and achievements some of us were privileged to witness and admire for fortunately so long a period." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edison's Death Causes Deep Sorrow To Pope Vatican City, Oct. 18.--(AP) --Pope Pius Xl expressed deep sorrow at the news of Thomas A. Edison's death and will send his condolences tomorrow through the apostolic delegate at Washington. The pontiff felt an almost personal friendship for the inventor and was kept informed of Mr. Edison's condition during his long illness. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Lights Out" For Edison For one minute last week, the United States was in darkness, as a tribute to the man who gave it and the world the electric light--Thomas A. Edison. By a coincidence, the funeral of the inventor was held on the fifty second anniversary of his invention of the electric light--Oct 21. President Hoover had planned to attend the funeral, but important business kept him in Washington. Mrs. Hoover represented him at the services. The "minute of darkness" On Oct 21 was the President's suggestion. It was "lights out" for a minute at 7 o'clock Pacific Time, 8 o'clock Mountain Time, 9 o'clock Central Time and 10 o'clock Eastern Time. During that minute tributes to Edison were broadcast by radio. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some years back I purchased a scrapbook dedicated 'To the memory of Thomas Edison', compiled of newspaper clippings at the time of his death. Thought I would share a few of them. Joan ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From [email protected] Thu Oct 18 13:40:57 2007 From: [email protected] (Bruce Mercer) Date: Thu Oct 18 13:41:17 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Asian Victrola Revisited Message-ID: <000c01c811c7$33c87b40$b3a7b...@vaio> Since I am the one that started stirring this pot I am offering my final .02 worth of why I offered my opinion in the first place. The very first thing that caught my eye with this Victrola was the nickel knobs followed by the rest of the nickel trim. Nickel would never be used with a Victor color pallette like that especially with gold painted trim. That was the first red flag. The second red flag was in the listing: "The outside of this machine has the original Asian decorated case as it was done when it was new". If that doesn't imply an original Victor finish I don't know what does. It's unfortunate the seller did not disclose that it might be an after-market job in the first place. Red flag #3: In fifty years of collecting I have never seen the interior of a machine deteriorate faster that the exterior. If that was the case, and I believe the seller as he stated in the listing that the previous owner had repainted it. It's equally obvious that all of the nickel has been replated and the turntable felt was not proerly applied, however minor the felt may be. If the seller thought it was an aftermarket job then that sould have been stated so in the listing. People are not mind readers. Failure to disclose that in favor of brevity of the listing, invites scrutiny. I've seen many pieces of Chinoiserie and have in my collection pieces from the 18th century through the 20th. I looked very closely at the artwork on this machine under high magnification until it pixilated and yes, it does have some wear. 90 years worth, very doubtful. Chinoiserie applied in this impasto manner is seen in the revival of Asian art in the late 40's and 50's on into the early 60's. There is nothing refined or delicate about this particular artwork at all. (to me) Clearly not Victor quality. On the other hand, I see nothing at all wrong or unusual in an aftermarket job done on an inexpensive instrument. It would be foolish to paint over bookmatched veneers for instance. The nickel looks like it was plated less than 90 years ago. I think that's what bothers me the most about this machine...is the nickel. It screams. I think the overall color of the machine is very beautiful. I love the ground and other colors. I never really did understand why Victor painted the interior of their Asian machines a pastel instead of using the ground color, black, red or whatever. I wonder how long the present owner has had the machine and if this restoration could not have been something that was done by it's previous owner 50 or 60 years ago. My previous post and this one are strictly my opinion...just that, my opinion. I don't think there is anything wrong in my bringing this up in this group and discussing it because there is obviously a wide variety of opinions about it. I agree, it's great we do not all collect or want the same machines. Bruce From [email protected] Thu Oct 18 13:47:18 2007 From: [email protected] (Bruce Mercer) Date: Thu Oct 18 13:47:27 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Reed Organ Cased Talking Machine Message-ID: <001301c811c8$13245a20$b3a7b...@vaio> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180168778369&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008 Here's something I've never seen before. Now I know what happened to all of those reed organ cases that went unused after the playerpianos and phonographs came on the scene. Bruce From [email protected] Thu Oct 18 14:43:40 2007 From: [email protected] (BruceY) Date: Thu Oct 18 14:43:08 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Reed Organ Cased Talking Machine References: <001301c811c8$13245a20$b3a7b...@vaio> Message-ID: <001601c811cf$f50ea7e0$6401a...@user52c8f93503> Wow!!can't say that I have ever seen anything resembling this before. What a neat item, if you can pick it up for a song, and fix it up it would be quite a conversation piece indeed for a Phonograph collector. The tone arm looks like it was from one of those cheap off brand Dept. Store machines that were so prevelant in the late teens. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Mercer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Reed Organ Cased Talking Machine http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180168778369&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008 Here's something I've never seen before. Now I know what happened to all of those reed organ cases that went unused after the playerpianos and phonographs came on the scene. Bruce _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1077 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 9:54 AM
