The standard speaker, automatic reproducer and automatic recorder all shared 
serial numbers.  210,000 is the highest serial number I know of.  NL was the 
standard speaker with the rod attached to the recessed plate to prevent 
accidental erasure when used in conjunction with a special carriage.  When you 
adjust the arm the volume increases as the cutting stylus begins to sink into 
the grooves of the record.  I was surprised at how well it recorded.  
 
The earliest automatic reproducers I have seen have a blank arm and the long 
hinge pin that the standard speaker used.  The tops are mostly interchangeable, 
some have a tang coming out of the threads of the body to protect the 
orientation of the top which has a notch in it so the serial numbers are always 
on the top.
 
The standards speaker should not have wording on the body.
 
Steve



> From: ClockworkHome at aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:29:08 -0400> To: 
> phono-l at oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Spring Motor> > I 
> suspect the reproducer you describe is a Standard Speaker. Turn it over > and 
> look at the stylus bar. If it has both a cutting stylus and a hemispherical > 
> playback stylus then it is a Standard Speaker. The Standard Speaker was not > 
> labeled with Reproducer or Recorder because it was both. With such a low > 
> serial I would suspect it must be a Standard Speaker since anything below 
> about > 28000 was while over 28000 you are into the Automatic Speakers. Steve 
> Medved > would have a better handle on this than I.> > Your machines serial 
> number is right in the middle of the Spring Motor > machines which span 
> approximately from 5900 to 29000 from what I have seen.> > If the motor has 
> ball weights on the governor and a square drive crank shaft > on the winder 
> then it is original. With such a low motor number this should > be the case. 
> Here Terry Baer has a list of motor numbers and machines on his > web site. 
> To me your motor number does sound correct and is comparable with > machines 
> with which I am familiar.> > Serial numbers on the Spring Motor followed the 
> M & E electrics. Your > topworks should have the two stanchions on the left 
> side where the idler pulleys > directed the leather drive belt to the motor 
> pulley.> > I state the above comments because of late I have seen two "Spring 
> Motor" > machines that were conglomerations of later parts, both being passed 
> off as > original. One had a serial number well into the Triumph A machines 
> and the other > had a cylindrical weight, screw-on crank, Triton motor from a 
> later era.> > Hope that helps, I will have to see photos of the holes you 
> describe to > compare them with what might have been their purpose. Usually 
> on the M & E > electric machines the letter only appeared on the governor 
> assembly.> > Al> That Crazy Edison Guy...> > > > **************Get fantasy 
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