Bob, Wow - thanks for all that information!? Your data brings the number of 1As in my database to 45.? Just to be sure - - your 1284 is a smooth lid?? Thanks again, Bob - - I really appreciate it.
Best, George -----Original Message----- From: Bob Johnson <[email protected]> To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l at oldcrank.org> Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 9:36 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B George: I tried to send you a direct email but it bounced back for some reason: here is my 1A info: SN 920 on ID plate and stamped on wood under horizontal right grill. Mech is SN 1948. smooth lid (non stepped), carving on upper front columns, door has curved bottom, metal clips, 3 side vents, urn grill, mahogany, 2-piece horizontal grill around horn neck. SN 1086 on ID plate, mech and stamped in wood. Smooth lid. No carving on upper columns. Door has curved bottom, metal clips, 3 side vents, urn grill, mahogany, single piece horizontal grill. SN 403 on ID plate and mech. Not stamped into wood. No carving on upper front columns. Smooth lid, door has curved bottom, egg crate dividers in drawers, 3 side vents, lyre grill, oak, single piece horizontal grill. SN 1284 on ID plate, mech and stamped on wood. Fancy carving on upper columns, door has curved bottom, metal clips, 3 side vents, early rococo grill, oak, single piece horizontal grill SN 2861 on ID plate, mech and stamped into wood. Smooth lid, carvings on upper columns, door bottom is curved, 3 side vents, urn grill, oak, 2 piece horizontal grill. I sold SN 482 but it had SN on ID plate and Mech. Smooth lid, no carvings on upper columns, door had curved bottom, 3 side vents, lyre grill, 2 piece horizontal grill, mahogany, metal clips I sold SN 83 - had SN stamped on ID plate and mech. Smooth lid, door with curved bottom, 2 side vents, lyre grill, mahogany, flat dolphin key for door and lid. Don't recall horizontal grill make-up I also currently own a 1B and III if you want that data. Best, Bob Johnson in Oregon -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jimcip at earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:28 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B Dear Mr. Paul: Am glad you are expanding the number of questions asked about the Amberolas I, A and B. In addition to the different feet & number of side sound vents you might want to include a more detailed question about the carving on the front upper corner columns since the earlier style with smooth sided lid has either smooth upper columns between the vertical beading or an Art Noveau style leaf design that is completely different from the carving on the later stepped sided lid cabinets. Also the early cabinet has a two piece fretwork with rectangular slots surrounding the neck of the horn whereas later machines have a one piece fretwork with curliqued slots. I'll help in any way I can. Thanks and all good wishes... Very truly yours, Jim Cartwright jimcip at earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. > [Original Message] > From: <gpaul2000 at aol.com> > To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > Date: 30-Oct-2008 3:26:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B > > > Jim, > > Thanks very much for your very helpful listing of all 7 (!) of your Amberola 1As and 1Bs.? I appreciate the trouble you took to compile this for me.? As I dig deeper into this, I may impose upon you for more details re: number of louvers and interior markings - particularly for the examples with cloven hooves.? Thanks again for your tremendous help, Jim! > > Best, > > George > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jimcip at earthlink.net <jimcip at earthlink.net> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:52 pm > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Paul: > Am glad you are researching the early Edison Amberolas. I have the > following: > > A, Serial Number 289, mechanism same as nameplate, Lyre grille, smooth lid, > no carving on front corner posts other than vertical trim at edges > that runs all the way down, door extends downward with serpentine > curved bottom > - no board under door, wooden dividers in drawers & two sound vents on > each side, mahogany, single piece wooden fretwork around neck of horn > > A, Serial Number 859, mechanism same as nameplate, Lyre grille, smooth lid, > no carving on front corner posts other than vertical trim at edges > that runs all the way down, door extends downward with serpentine > curved bottom > - no board under door, wooden dividers in drawers, mahogany > > A, Serial Number on nameplate 887, mechanism Serial Number 495, later > Rococo grille, carving on top of front corner posts with cloven hoof > feet, smooth lid, flat bottom door with board beneath, metal clips in > drawers, mahogany > > A, Serial Number 1179, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo > grille, stepped lid, carved tops of front columns with cloven hoof > feet, bottom of > door flat with board under door, metal clips in drawers, mahogany > > A, Serial Number 2786, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo > grille, smooth lid, Art Noveau leaf carving top of front corner posts, > door extends downward with serpentine curved bottom - no board under > door, metal > clips in drawers, mahogany > > B, Serial Number 4106, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo > grille, stepped lid, carved tops of front columns with cloven hoof > feet, flat door bottom with board below, metal clips in drawers, > mahogany > > B, Serial Number 4189, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo > grille, stepped lid, carved tops of front column, flat door bottom > with board below, metal clips in drawers, golden oak > > In case you are interested, I have the following also: > > Amberola III, Model B, Serial Number 293, mechanism Serial Number > 8617, elaborate Amberola decal in lid, mahogany > > Amberola III, Serial Number 1299 (it is in storage but I believe > mechanism serial number matches), plain Edison decal in lid, mahogany > > Your efforts in documeneting early phonographs are much appreciated. > Many thanks! > All good wishes... > > > Jim Cartwright > > > Immortal Performances > > > > > > > jimcip at earthlink.net > EarthLink Revolves Around You. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <gpaul2000 at aol.com> > > To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > > Date: 25-Oct-2008 10:47:11 AM > > Subject: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B > > > > > > I'm asking for data from owners of Amberolas 1A and 1B. I'm working > > on an article on the early Amberolas, similar to a study done on > > suitcase "Homes" two years ago and published in "The Sound Box." > > Data received will be compiled in an article scheduled to appear in > > the March 2009 issue of "The Sound Box," and all contributors will > > be acknowledged. (If you'd like your data/identity to be kept > > confidential, I will of course honor your wishes. I can be contacted > > directly at gpaul2000 at aol.com.) > > > > I'm looking for the following information from owners of Amberolas > > 1A or > 1B: > > > > 1) Type (1A or 1B)? > > 2) Serial Number (and do data plate and mechanism numbers match? > > 3) Lid: smooth or stepped? > > 4) Upper front corner posts: plain or carved? > > 5) Grille: Lyre, first rococo, or second rococo (all shown on page > > 163 of > Frow)? > > 6) Apron (bottom of cabinet): wavy or more flattened (as shown on > > page > 163 of Frow)? > > 7) Drawers: wooden separators or metal clips? > > > > I will gratefully accept data here at Phono-L, or at gpaul2000 at aol.com. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > Best to all, > > George Paul > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Bob,
