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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Johnson" <[email protected]>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B


> George:  I tried to send you a direct email but it bounced back for some
> reason:  here is my 1A info:
>
> SN 920 on ID plate and stamped on wood under horizontal right grill.  Mech
> is SN 1948.  smooth lid (non stepped), carving on upper front columns, 
> door
> has curved bottom, metal clips, 3 side vents, urn grill, mahogany, 2-piece
> horizontal grill around horn neck.
>
> SN 1086 on ID plate, mech and stamped in wood.  Smooth lid. No carving on
> upper columns.  Door has curved bottom, metal clips, 3 side vents, urn
> grill, mahogany, single piece horizontal grill.
>
> SN 403 on ID plate and mech.  Not stamped into wood.  No carving on upper
> front columns.  Smooth lid, door has curved bottom, egg crate dividers in
> drawers, 3 side vents, lyre grill, oak, single piece horizontal grill.
>
> SN 1284 on ID plate, mech and stamped on wood.  Fancy carving on upper
> columns, door has curved bottom, metal clips, 3 side vents, early rococo
> grill, oak, single piece horizontal grill
>
> SN 2861 on ID plate, mech and stamped into wood.  Smooth lid, carvings on
> upper columns, door bottom is curved, 3 side vents, urn grill, oak, 2 
> piece
> horizontal grill.
>
> I sold SN 482 but it had SN on ID plate and Mech.  Smooth lid, no carvings
> on upper columns, door had curved bottom, 3 side vents, lyre grill, 2 
> piece
> horizontal grill, mahogany, metal clips
>
> I sold SN 83 - had SN stamped on ID plate and mech.  Smooth lid, door with
> curved bottom, 2 side vents, lyre grill, mahogany, flat dolphin key for 
> door
> and lid.  Don't recall horizontal grill make-up
>
> I also currently own a 1B and III if you want that data.  Best, Bob 
> Johnson
> in Oregon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at 
> oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of jimcip at earthlink.net
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:28 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B
>
> Dear Mr. Paul:
> Am glad you are expanding the number of questions asked about the 
> Amberolas
> I, A and B.    In addition to the different feet & number
> of side sound vents you might want to include a more detailed question 
> about
> the carving on the front upper corner columns since the earlier style with
> smooth sided lid has either smooth upper columns between the vertical
> beading or an Art Noveau style leaf design that is completely different 
> from
> the carving on the later stepped sided lid
> cabinets.   Also the early cabinet has a two piece fretwork with
> rectangular slots surrounding the neck of the horn whereas later machines
> have a one piece fretwork with curliqued  slots.
> I'll help in any way I can.
> Thanks and all good wishes...
>
>                                                              Very truly
> yours,
>
>                                                              Jim 
> Cartwright
>
>
>
> jimcip at earthlink.net
> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: <gpaul2000 at aol.com>
>> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Date: 30-Oct-2008 3:26:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B
>>
>>
>>  Jim,
>>
>> Thanks very much for your very helpful listing of all 7 (!) of your
> Amberola 1As and 1Bs.? I appreciate the trouble you took to compile this 
> for
> me.? As I dig deeper into this, I may impose upon you for more details
> re: number of louvers and interior markings - particularly for the 
> examples
> with cloven hooves.? Thanks again for your tremendous help, Jim!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jimcip at earthlink.net <jimcip at earthlink.net>
>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:52 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr. Paul:
>> Am glad you are researching the early Edison Amberolas.    I have the
>> following:
>>
>> A, Serial Number 289, mechanism same as nameplate, Lyre grille, smooth
> lid,
>> no carving on front corner posts other than vertical trim at edges
>> that runs all the way down, door extends downward with serpentine
>> curved bottom
>> - no board under door, wooden dividers in drawers & two sound vents on
>> each side, mahogany, single piece wooden fretwork around neck of horn
>>
>> A, Serial Number 859, mechanism same as nameplate, Lyre grille, smooth
> lid,
>> no carving on front corner posts other than vertical trim at edges
>> that runs all the way down, door extends downward with serpentine
>> curved bottom
>> - no board under door, wooden dividers in drawers, mahogany
>>
>> A, Serial Number on nameplate 887, mechanism Serial Number 495, later
>> Rococo grille, carving on top of front corner posts with cloven hoof
>> feet, smooth lid, flat bottom door with board beneath, metal clips in
>> drawers, mahogany
>>
>> A, Serial Number 1179, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo
>> grille, stepped lid, carved tops of front columns with cloven hoof
>> feet, bottom
> of
>> door flat with board under door, metal clips in drawers, mahogany
>>
>> A, Serial Number 2786, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo
>> grille, smooth lid, Art Noveau leaf carving top of front corner posts,
>> door extends downward with serpentine curved bottom - no board under
>> door,
> metal
>> clips in drawers, mahogany
>>
>> B, Serial Number 4106, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo
>> grille, stepped lid, carved tops of front columns with cloven hoof
>> feet, flat door bottom with board below, metal clips in drawers,
>> mahogany
>>
>> B, Serial Number 4189, mechanism same as nameplate, later Rococo
>> grille, stepped lid, carved tops of front column, flat door bottom
>> with board below, metal clips in drawers, golden oak
>>
>> In case you are interested, I have the following also:
>>
>> Amberola III, Model B, Serial Number 293, mechanism Serial Number
>> 8617, elaborate Amberola decal in lid, mahogany
>>
>> Amberola III, Serial Number 1299 (it is in storage but I believe
>> mechanism serial number matches), plain Edison decal in lid, mahogany
>>
>> Your efforts in documeneting early phonographs are much appreciated.
>> Many thanks!
>> All good wishes...
>>
>
>>
>
>>      Jim Cartwright
>>
>
>>
>
>>      Immortal Performances
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> jimcip at earthlink.net
>> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
>>
>>
>> > [Original Message]
>> > From: <gpaul2000 at aol.com>
>> > To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> > Date: 25-Oct-2008 10:47:11 AM
>> > Subject: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B
>> >
>> >
>> >  I'm asking for data from owners of Amberolas 1A and 1B. I'm working
>> > on an article on the early Amberolas, similar to a study done on
>> > suitcase "Homes" two years ago and published in "The Sound Box."
>> > Data received will be compiled in an article scheduled to appear in
>> > the March 2009 issue of "The Sound Box," and all contributors will
>> > be acknowledged. (If you'd like your data/identity to be kept
>> > confidential, I will of course honor your wishes. I can be contacted
>> > directly at gpaul2000 at aol.com.)
>> >
>> > I'm looking for the following information from owners of Amberolas
>> > 1A or
>> 1B:
>> >
>> > 1) Type (1A or 1B)?
>> > 2) Serial Number (and do data plate and mechanism numbers match?
>> > 3) Lid: smooth or stepped?
>> > 4) Upper front corner posts: plain or carved?
>> > 5) Grille: Lyre, first rococo, or second rococo (all shown on page
>> > 163
> of
>> Frow)?
>> > 6) Apron (bottom of cabinet): wavy or more flattened (as shown on
>> > page
>> 163 of Frow)?
>> > 7) Drawers: wooden separators or metal clips?
>> >
>> > I will gratefully accept data here at Phono-L, or at gpaul2000 at aol.com.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your help!
>> >
>> > Best to all,
>> > George Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
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