I asked for the serial number and the last patent date on the first day of the eBay posting. When someone does not have a machine they don't know how to answer and I get no response. I have not received an answer to my question on the serial and the last patent date yet. A bogus serial and patent date would certainly stand out as fraudulent intent. If the guy comes back to me with serial #18546 patented in April 1917 then one can easily tell it is made up. There were around 3700 Operas before they were renamed Concert for another 800 or so following. The last patent date on all Opera/Concerts should be November 8, 1910. When they do answer and the machine is one I am looking for then I bid. Happy New Year to All and May All Your Finds Be Rare Ones... Al **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From [email protected] Thu Jan 1 03:53:38 2009 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Thu Jan 1 03:59:02 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Brunswick Panatrope Value? Rarity? Interest? Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Anyone care to comment on how rare a Brunswick Panatrope is? Is it a desirable machine since it is an early all electronic phonograph? It is not currently working and is missing the three amplifier stage tubes though the turntable functions perfectly. A non-phonograph collector friend wants to put it up for sale but does not know the value. Being an Edison only collector I wasn't interested and could not help him. It is in a cabinet comparable to my Edison C2 in quality and looks fairly clean. It is definitely earlier than the C2 with a horn speaker and tubes like a UX199. Any comments will be appreciated. Al **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From [email protected] Thu Jan 1 08:35:48 2009 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Thu Jan 1 08:41:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Opera Message-ID: <[email protected]> In a message dated 1/1/2009 5:07:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I asked for the serial number and the last patent date on the first day of the eBay posting. I think the serial # was visible on one of the photos. Not that the presumed owner knew much about it... Allen **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From [email protected] Thu Jan 1 10:42:43 2009 From: [email protected] (Andrew Baron) Date: Thu Jan 1 10:43:03 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Brunswick Panatrope Value? Rarity? Interest? In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> The UX199 was popular in the 1924 to 1926 era, and was designed to be a "battery" or "dry cell" tube. They were used in some AC sets such as Steinite, but this is pretty unusual. If you can find a model number on that Brunstechnicalwick, I may have the technical data to pin down the year and verify whether or not that UX199 is supposed to be there. If the set has an AC power cord and plug, as it seems, based on your description of the turntable functioning (AC induction motor, probably), then it may have been designed to use the AC tubes that were introduced in 1927 - 28. The technical data will also show what the missing tube numbers should be, which will help this scarce machine get back on its feet. I would be happy to help with this. As for value, I can't help. My own sense is that these are scarce enough that there's not a lot of precedent to establish typical values. Without Nipper the dog and without Edison the name, its market is probably a bit more limited, although the quality will certainly be there and the Panatrope designation is respected among collectors. Andy Baron Santa Fe On Jan 1, 2009, at 4:53 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Anyone care to comment on how rare a Brunswick Panatrope is? Is it a > desirable machine since it is an early all electronic phonograph? > It is not > currently working and is missing the three amplifier stage tubes > though the turntable > functions perfectly. A non-phonograph collector friend wants to put > it up for > sale but does not know the value. Being an Edison only collector I > wasn't > interested and could not help him. It is in a cabinet comparable to > my Edison > C2 in quality and looks fairly clean. It is definitely earlier than > the C2 > with a horn speaker and tubes like a UX199. > > Any comments will be appreciated. > > Al > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is > making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
