Hi Al, The only M I have ever seen with the copper oxidized weight was the early one with the flattened K type weight. The highest serial number I have seen is 5595. Unfortunately I am just beginning my research on these, but if you know of any with the copper oxidized weight I am most interested in photos.
The L had the oxidized weight, but I have never seen an M like that. Steve > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:16:13 -0800 > > Steve: I have seen model M's with nickel plated weights and also in the > copper gun-metal finish. Can you tell by serial numbers when they were > produced? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]> > To: "Phono-l" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:08 PM > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > > > > Hi Al, > > Steve the reproducer nut here. > > This is the last type of the M, it was made into a trowel like the model O > to reduce wear on the wax four minute records. > > There are at least four types of the M I know of. > > The first M has a flattened K type weight, I know of one that used to belong > to Aaron Cramer. > > The second has the short turn over rod that is unique to the M with the M > stamped on top of the round weight. > > The next type has the M stamped underneath with the short stem. > > The next has the long stem that is the same as the model O. > > The final version of the M has the trowel like the final version of the O. > > I will send you a photo of the early L and the info I have on the early L > and M if you are interested. All I have are photos. > > Steve > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:16:27 -0800 > > Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? > > > > I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an > > Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? of course the serial > > plate is gone, but the bedplate color is opera correct, my 1-A is much > > darker. Also I have never seen a model M reproducer that has been shaved > > like a trowel, any comments? AL Menashe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Mon Mar 2 15:15:21 2009 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 2 15:38:20 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like Phonograph? Message-ID: <[email protected]> In a message dated 3/2/2009 6:09:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] cites: > I am curious about the Almost Opera that just appeared on Ebay. Will an > Amberola 1-a mech. fit that well in an opera case? --------------- The Edison Amberola IA motor/chassis will not fit into a standard Edison Opera cabinet, since the mainspring barrels are too large and will hit the bottom of the case. So this cabinet must be a later re-make and the unusual side handles bear that out. Allen _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) From [email protected] Mon Mar 2 15:39:53 2009 From: [email protected] (Thatcher Graham) Date: Mon Mar 2 15:40:55 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] main spring repacement In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I did, but that unit is too different from my Grafanola for me to really use it. My point was a little broader, that for all the brainpower here we seem to have little in the way of how-to documentation. Steven Medved wrote: > Did you see the one on youtube? > > >> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:33:20 -0500 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] main spring repacement >> >> Has anyone on this list videotaped what they consider a standard >> mainspring replacement? Seems with the knowledge base in this group >> we'd have a whole how-to section on youtube and have pdfs with >> step-by-step instructions. >> >> -- Thatcher >> >> >> >> >> Thomas Edison wrote: >> >>> I have installed hundreds of mainsprings. I always wear gloves and safety >>> glasses. It is best to eat a good meal before doing this, and be of good >>> physical condition. Triumph and Diamond disc springs are very powerful, I >>> usually round the end of the mainsprings spring so it hooks easier, many >>> new springs have an almost triangle shaped end (if it is the kind with the >>> pear shaped hole. ) The hook ones for Victors are pretty easy, do not >>> round these. I also use needle nose vice grips to hold the spring to the >>> outer hook, once it is hooked and then wind the spring in from hand to >>> hand.The outer coils are the hardest, and if you do it right the center >>> coils fall in with a small push. The springs are most dangerous when you >>> are putting the first coils in and it slips off the rivet, this is when it >>> can fly and hurt you. I have used a stump outside with a vice with v jaws >>> bolted to it, and I could walk with the spring aroud the barrel and coil it >>> in with one hand holding the mainspring and the other over the barrel >>> stuffing it in. If you are starting with springs I suggest something like >>> a Victrola IV spring. >>> >>> Shawn Borri >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Windows Live? 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