That's right, the V has 12 inches... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message----- From: "Jay Horenstein" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:39:32 To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! The larger machines (like with twelve inch turn tables) used a shorter back bracket so the tone arm wouldn't come up short of the spindle, And would track correctly. Jay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! I swear I am going to chop this Vic III to BITS....I am so frustrated... I got this Vic III a couple of year ago. Nice machine. It had a Vic IV horn, which I sold and then purchased a really nice Victor III horn. I finally took it to sell at a GSPS meeting. Someone pointed out that the beck bracket and tonearm were from a Victor II. I took it off the market because I didn't want to be dishonest and say it was all original. I searched and searched and found a kind person who traded me the Vic II bracket, arm and elbow (and a small amount of cash) for a Vic III bracket and arm (no elbow). The bracket has new decals, but looks ok. The II arm had lost most of the decals. Also the new tonearm looks great. Except for one thing. It is too long. I don't know what it is from - it is obviously a Victor outside horn tonearm, but if I line it up to the center of the spindle and put the reproduce down, the needle touches down about an inch out front of the spindle, instead of on center which it should do. I am about at the end of my rope. I've spent a lot of time and money to the point where I will have to keep this for awhile til values go up - as is I would need $2400 for it. Anybody got a true Vic III tonearm that they can send me the measurements to? Anybody got a true Vic III/IV/V tonearm available??? Save me!!!! Thanks John Robles _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 10:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 10:38 AM _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Thu Mar 12 13:46:17 2009 From: [email protected] (Peter Fraser) Date: Thu Mar 12 14:13:28 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <412845163.6233591236887456490.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> No, it's the guy with a birthdate in 1955, and the suppressed addresses. But who cares, really, anyway - he's as good as dead, either way, by his absence from our hobby. Only reason anybody had been talking about his death in the first place was because of the way he selfishly crippled phonolist and his universally reviled personality... On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:31 PM, "Jay Horenstein" <[email protected]> wrote: > Wicked witch of the East. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > ] On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:51 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > > Yes, I just went into that website, did you mean Paul R. Flint age > 72 of New York?? is that the fellow? How do we know for sure it is > the same Paul Flint from the Phonolist. The reason I asked is that > discussion came up before, and some one pointed out his passing and > than it was contradicted by someone else, so it was never resolved. > What was it that Mark Twain once said? "The reports of my death have > been greatly exaggerated". Can we confirm this one way or another > absolutely positively, just like the coroner in Munchkin City did > with the Wicked Witch of the West?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Fraser" <[email protected]> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:51:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > > Nope, he's been dead since 2005. You can verify it on the Social > Security Death Index (google "SSDI" to find it), plus he hasn't posted > on the list (or board or listserv or whatever), or responded to any > requests since that time. The cat part isn't as easy to verify but > every time I've been told of his death that's been part of the story. > Happens a lot when lonely people with pets die and nobody finds them > for a while. > > > On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:55 AM, "Ron L" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't think he's talking about phonolist which is a mailing list >> and not a >> message board. Phonolist was and is Paul's list. He made the rules >> and >> worked hard to keep the list spam/spammer free. Yes it was a PITA >> to get on >> the list. Then he got busy with work. He is still alive and it is >> still >> HIS list. However, someone else is helping him check out new >> applicants, so >> there is little wait time to get on the list, and it is still spam >> free. >> >> Ron L >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> ] On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:55 PM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> >> I'd say poetic justice, but that's too cruel. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Peter Fraser >> Sender: [email protected] >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 7:50 PM >> >> Are you talking about that a-hole Paul Something-or-other of >> phonolist? He abandoned them for a few years, effectively shutting it >> to any membership changes...and I heard he later was found dead in >> his >> manhattan hovel, partially eaten by his cats. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- Peter >> [email protected] >> >> On Mar 11, 2009, at 6:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hopefully it replaced the one where this crazy old coot thought he >>> was the end all be all of phonograph board leaders. If you said >>> anything he didn't agree with, you got flamed like crazy. Once he >>> called me all these names off list and some on list. That was the >>> only phono guy I could say I hate. He was a vicious, rabid dog who >>> regularly victimized board contributors. >>> ------Original Message------ >>> From: DanKj >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 5:35 PM >>> >>> Seems to be so many of these messageboards, now .... which one did >>> this >>> replace, if any? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Daniel Melvin" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>> >>> >>>> Try this... >>>> >>>> http://victrolagramophones.proboards.com/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: > 3/12/2009 10:38 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: > 3/12/2009 10:38 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Thu Mar 12 14:28:26 2009 From: [email protected] (Jay Horenstein) Date: Thu Mar 12 14:28:41 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! In-Reply-To: <156592364-1236892151-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-125059...@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <[email protected]><[email protected]> <156592364-1236892151-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-125059...@bxe1164.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <[email protected]> I purchased a gorgeous Vic V at a show once, and when I got it home I noticed that the tone arm came up about one inch too short. I called Tim Fabizio thinking I needed a different one. He told me that all the tone arms are pretty much the same, and explained the whole back bracket thing. I sure hope you find what you need, Jay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:09 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! That's right, the V has 12 inches... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Jay Horenstein" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:39:32 To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! The larger machines (like with twelve inch turn tables) used a shorter back bracket so the tone arm wouldn't come up short of the spindle, And would track correctly. Jay -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! I swear I am going to chop this Vic III to BITS....I am so frustrated... I got this Vic III a couple of year ago. Nice machine. It had a Vic IV horn, which I sold and then purchased a really nice Victor III horn. I finally took it to sell at a GSPS meeting. Someone pointed out that the beck bracket and tonearm were from a Victor II. I took it off the market because I didn't want to be dishonest and say it was all original. I searched and searched and found a kind person who traded me the Vic II bracket, arm and elbow (and a small amount of cash) for a Vic III bracket and arm (no elbow). The bracket has new decals, but looks ok. The II arm had lost most of the decals. Also the new tonearm looks great. Except for one thing. It is too long. I don't know what it is from - it is obviously a Victor outside horn tonearm, but if I line it up to the center of the spindle and put the reproduce down, the needle touches down about an inch out front of the spindle, instead of on center which it should do. I am about at the end of my rope. I've spent a lot of time and money to the point where I will have to keep this for awhile til values go up - as is I would need $2400 for it. Anybody got a true Vic III tonearm that they can send me the measurements to? Anybody got a true Vic III/IV/V tonearm available??? Save me!!!! Thanks John Robles _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 10:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 10:38 AM _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 10:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 10:38 AM
