I think Jay has called it. The Vic V and VI are smaller as the case is bigger. You may be luckier than you know! Mike
2009/3/12 <[email protected]> > The guy I got it from is a parts dealer who got it from a man who said it > came from a Vic III..but you never know. Is the V bracket different? > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Jay Horenstein" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:34:34 > To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! > > > It's my guess that you have a back bracket for a larger machine like a Vic > V. Jay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:00 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! > > I just measured my Victor III tone arm from the very back of the horn hole > to the where the reproducer attaches and it measures about 11 inches. If you > need any other measurements on it in other areas let me know. > > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john robles" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:49:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! > > I swear I am going to chop this Vic III to BITS....I am so frustrated... > I got this Vic III a couple of year ago. Nice machine. It had a Vic IV > horn, which I sold and then purchased a really nice Victor III horn. I > finally took it to sell at a GSPS meeting. Someone pointed out that the beck > bracket and tonearm were from a Victor II. I took it off the market because > I didn't want to be dishonest and say it was all original. I searched and > searched and found a kind person who traded me the Vic II bracket, arm and > elbow (and a small amount of cash) for a Vic III bracket and arm (no elbow). > The bracket has new decals, but looks ok. The II arm had lost most of the > decals. Also the new tonearm looks great. Except for one thing. It is too > long. I don't know what it is from - it is obviously a Victor outside horn > tonearm, but if I line it up to the center of the spindle and put the > reproduce down, the needle touches down about an inch out front of the > spindle, instead of on center which it should do. > I am about at the end of my rope. I've spent a lot of time and money to the > point where I will have to keep this for awhile til values go up - as is I > would need $2400 for it. > Anybody got a true Vic III tonearm that they can send me the measurements > to? Anybody got a true Vic III/IV/V tonearm available??? Save me!!!! > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 > 10:38 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 > 10:38 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From [email protected] Thu Mar 12 14:53:17 2009 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Thu Mar 12 14:54:52 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]><1381879597.6237221236887993553.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><[email protected]><978244293-1236890688-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-8435501...@bxe1155.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><[email protected]> Message-ID: <1704828923-1236894797-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-9843771...@bxe1196.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Doesn't the III bracket have sort of a double step up to where the are attaches? This one only has a single step. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Mike Stitt <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:13:03 To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! I think Jay has called it. The Vic V and VI are smaller as the case is bigger. You may be luckier than you know! Mike 2009/3/12 <[email protected]> > The guy I got it from is a parts dealer who got it from a man who said it > came from a Vic III..but you never know. Is the V bracket different? > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Jay Horenstein" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:34:34 > To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! > > > It's my guess that you have a back bracket for a larger machine like a Vic > V. Jay > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:00 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! > > I just measured my Victor III tone arm from the very back of the horn hole > to the where the reproducer attaches and it measures about 11 inches. If you > need any other measurements on it in other areas let me know. > > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john robles" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:49:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! > > I swear I am going to chop this Vic III to BITS....I am so frustrated... > I got this Vic III a couple of year ago. Nice machine. It had a Vic IV > horn, which I sold and then purchased a really nice Victor III horn. I > finally took it to sell at a GSPS meeting. Someone pointed out that the beck > bracket and tonearm were from a Victor II. I took it off the market because > I didn't want to be dishonest and say it was all original. I searched and > searched and found a kind person who traded me the Vic II bracket, arm and > elbow (and a small amount of cash) for a Vic III bracket and arm (no elbow). > The bracket has new decals, but looks ok. The II arm had lost most of the > decals. Also the new tonearm looks great. Except for one thing. It is too > long. I don't know what it is from - it is obviously a Victor outside horn > tonearm, but if I line it up to the center of the spindle and put the > reproduce down, the needle touches down about an inch out front of the > spindle, instead of on center which it should do. > I am about at the end of my rope. I've spent a lot of time and money to the > point where I will have to keep this for awhile til values go up - as is I > would need $2400 for it. > Anybody got a true Vic III tonearm that they can send me the measurements > to? Anybody got a true Vic III/IV/V tonearm available??? Save me!!!! > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 > 10:38 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 > 10:38 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Thu Mar 12 14:54:56 2009 From: [email protected] (Peter Fraser) Date: Thu Mar 12 14:56:19 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <100696611-1236826484-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-7700764...@bxe1210.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> That's not how others have heard it. Have you got some more direct info? On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:26 PM, "Ron L" <[email protected]> wrote: > Different guy. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > ] On > Behalf Of Peter Fraser > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:52 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > > Nope, he's been dead since 2005. You can verify it on the Social > Security Death Index (google "SSDI" to find it), plus he hasn't posted > on the list (or board or listserv or whatever), or responded to any > requests since that time. The cat part isn't as easy to verify but > every time I've been told of his death that's been part of the story. > Happens a lot when lonely people with pets die and nobody finds them > for a while. > > > On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:55 AM, "Ron L" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't think he's talking about phonolist which is a mailing list >> and not a >> message board. Phonolist was and is Paul's list. He made the rules >> and >> worked hard to keep the list spam/spammer free. Yes it was a PITA >> to get on >> the list. Then he got busy with work. He is still alive and it is >> still >> HIS list. However, someone else is helping him check out new >> applicants, so >> there is little wait time to get on the list, and it is still spam >> free. >> >> Ron L >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> ] On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:55 PM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> >> I'd say poetic justice, but that's too cruel. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Peter Fraser >> Sender: [email protected] >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 7:50 PM >> >> Are you talking about that a-hole Paul Something-or-other of >> phonolist? He abandoned them for a few years, effectively shutting >> it >> to any membership changes...and I heard he later was found dead in >> his >> manhattan hovel, partially eaten by his cats. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- Peter >> [email protected] >> >> On Mar 11, 2009, at 6:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hopefully it replaced the one where this crazy old coot thought he >>> was the end all be all of phonograph board leaders. If you said >>> anything he didn't agree with, you got flamed like crazy. Once he >>> called me all these names off list and some on list. That was the >>> only phono guy I could say I hate. He was a vicious, rabid dog who >>> regularly victimized board contributors. >>> ------Original Message------ >>> From: DanKj >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 5:35 PM >>> >>> Seems to be so many of these messageboards, now .... which one did >>> this >>> replace, if any? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Daniel Melvin" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>> >>> >>>> Try this... >>>> >>>> http://victrolagramophones.proboards.com/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Thu Mar 12 15:41:08 2009 From: [email protected] (Jim Nichol) Date: Thu Mar 12 15:43:26 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <100696611-1236826484-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-7700764...@bxe1210.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Paul could not possibly have died in 2005. I believe it was only last year that someone contacted him by phone, and talked Paul into setting him up to administer Phonolist. The new guy (who's name completely escapes me) is doing a great job running Phonolist now. New members appear fairly often, since it is a Yahoo group (and thus easy to find). As far as I know, Paul still NEVER checks in. Jim On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: > > That's not how others have heard it. Have you got some more direct > info? > > On Mar 12, 2009, at 1:26 PM, "Ron L" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Different guy. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >> ] On >> Behalf Of Peter Fraser >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:52 PM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> >> Nope, he's been dead since 2005. You can verify it on the Social >> Security Death Index (google "SSDI" to find it), plus he hasn't >> posted >> on the list (or board or listserv or whatever), or responded to any >> requests since that time. The cat part isn't as easy to verify but >> every time I've been told of his death that's been part of the story. >> Happens a lot when lonely people with pets die and nobody finds them >> for a while. >> >> >> On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:55 AM, "Ron L" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't think he's talking about phonolist which is a mailing list >>> and not a >>> message board. Phonolist was and is Paul's list. He made the rules >>> and >>> worked hard to keep the list spam/spammer free. Yes it was a PITA >>> to get on >>> the list. Then he got busy with work. He is still alive and it is >>> still >>> HIS list. However, someone else is helping him check out new >>> applicants, so >>> there is little wait time to get on the list, and it is still spam >>> free. >>> >>> Ron L >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of [email protected] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:55 PM >>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>> >>> I'd say poetic justice, but that's too cruel. >>> ------Original Message------ >>> From: Peter Fraser >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 7:50 PM >>> >>> Are you talking about that a-hole Paul Something-or-other of >>> phonolist? He abandoned them for a few years, effectively >>> shutting it >>> to any membership changes...and I heard he later was found dead in >>> his >>> manhattan hovel, partially eaten by his cats. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- Peter >>> [email protected] >>> >>> On Mar 11, 2009, at 6:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Hopefully it replaced the one where this crazy old coot thought he >>>> was the end all be all of phonograph board leaders. If you said >>>> anything he didn't agree with, you got flamed like crazy. Once he >>>> called me all these names off list and some on list. That was the >>>> only phono guy I could say I hate. He was a vicious, rabid dog who >>>> regularly victimized board contributors. >>>> ------Original Message------ >>>> From: DanKj >>>> Sender: [email protected] >>>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>>> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>>> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 5:35 PM >>>> >>>> Seems to be so many of these messageboards, now .... which one did >>>> this >>>> replace, if any? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Daniel Melvin" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:01 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >>>> >>>> >>>>> Try this... >>>>> >>>>> http://victrolagramophones.proboards.com/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
