All of the above, Harvey --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Jay Horenstein <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jay Horenstein <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Columbia Trim Ring To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 8:46 PM
I'm curious. Is it called a trim ring, beauty ring, dust ring, or what? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Miller Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:11 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Columbia Trim Ring ....and I have one missing its trim ring as well, so that makes at least three of us! Sean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:36 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Cc: gregory caringi Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Trim Ring Hi it's to bad it cost so much to tool up but if you need one like me you would pay. I also have a BD with out one. Maybe some day. ---- gregory caringi <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's time for my annual post to ask the group if they have, or have knowledge of, a 12" (actually about 12 1/2" ID) nickle-plated trim ring found on the larger outside horn Columbia machines. I have an otherwise perfect and original BD that is missing the ring. Yes, it originally had a ring - the holes are there. > > > > For those of you in the same boat, I have tried to get Ron Sitko and some others in the hobby who have the skill & know-how to make reproduction rings, but to no avail. Start-up costs are too high and the perceived demand is low. I also investigated using clock bezels, but couldn't find any that come close. And no, the 12" rings from the Grafonola machines will not work - I tried. > > > > Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks for your help. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date: 3/21/2009 5:58 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date: 3/21/2009 5:58 PM _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Mon Mar 23 02:31:17 2009 From: [email protected] ([email protected]) Date: Mon Mar 23 02:36:35 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Automatic Kit Message-ID: <[email protected]> Greetings Jim: I have a similarly modified Automatic. There may have been an article in Mechanics Illustrated or some such periodical where home craftsman were given plans to make the added weights. Remember that every good junior high and senior high school at the time had a shop class that gave students wonderful mechanical skills. It is not like today where the kids graduate from school and don't know which end of a screwdriver to hold. IMHO, the kit was done by a home craftsman for his own personal use. If offered from a company there would likely have been some stamped lettering on the box or weights. Regards, Al **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) From [email protected] Mon Mar 23 13:13:53 2009 From: [email protected] (Steven Medved) Date: Mon Mar 23 13:13:59 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Automatic Kit In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hi Jim, I agree with Al and will give my reasons. The recorder is an early one and the reproducer is fairly early. When it came out the model C cost $5.00, a days wages. From 1900 to 1901 Mobley modified the Automatic and the early B. I am certain this was made by a skilled person around 1902 or so. If I had been able I would have bid $600 as this is a nice example of an owner saving money, and the items appear very well preserved due to the box he made. Edison offered upgrades and trade ins, if this was Edison the add on weights would have been nicely plated and there would be more surviving examples. Best regards, Steve > Has anyone ever seen one of these kits before? I sure haven't. > > http://tinyurl.com/edisonautomatic > > Jim Nichol > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From [email protected] Tue Mar 24 14:57:40 2009 From: [email protected] (DeeDee Blais) Date: Tue Mar 24 14:57:45 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] For Sale: Message-ID: <[email protected]> I am selling the following: 1) Oak Disk Record Cabinet- It basic on the outside but the inside is very interesting. When the door is opened, the record storage comes part way out to make record selection easier. This finish is original. $350 2) Oak Disk Record Cabinet- Another small basic record cabinet that would be suitable for a Vic II or possibly a Vic III size machine. The finish is original. $250 3) Nipper - This Nipper is 18" high and perfect in front of a Trademark machine. He's a plastic Nipper from the 60's or 70's (?) and was recently repainted and looks terrific. The price is $135. If interested, please contact me off list. I have photos and am happy to email them to you. Also, I am happy to deliver the items to Union. Thanks, Jerry Blais 541-990-0781 or [email protected] From [email protected] Wed Mar 25 14:01:00 2009 From: [email protected] (Robert Wright) Date: Wed Mar 25 14:07:10 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] [SPAM] Edison Amberol question References: <1388204791-1237221918-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2044381...@bxe1220.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><[email protected]><243449253-1237226057-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-4698861...@bxe1295.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <cd0f12adaa984fffb1a503766b5ed...@archimedes> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Hi group, quick question: I just bought what I assume is an early Edison Amberol cylinder (two, actually, but my question is about only one of them), a 4-minute black-colored cylinder in an original box that is printed with mostly green and some gold ink (including the matching box lid), Thomas Chalmers' reading of "Even Bravest Heart" by Gounod, #127. What I need to know is what this cylinder is made of. It appears, for all intents and purposes, to by made purely of black wax. No cylindrical former is apparent, cardboard, plaster, or otherwise, and no end rings either. It has a most immediate sound, with minimal surface noise (though only a bit more than a late Blue Amberol) and almost no boxy 'horn' effect on the vocal; one of the purest sounding documents I've ever owned, just utterly transporting (in spite of the rather stentorian performance). I also bought a similar cylinder from the same collection, #372, "White Wing" by Manuel Romain. This one sounds like most cylinders sound to me -- a copy of a copy. Where the Chalmers cylinder sounds like an original master cylinder (and it sounds like it was taken from the horn directly in front of Chalmers at the time, he's very loud compared to the orchestra), this Romain one has plenty of boxy 'horn' effect, like an acoustic recording of an acoustic recording. Do we know for certain at which point Edison stopped recording with multiple phonographs per performance and started making multiple copies of a single master cylinder? The audio performance truly is remarkably degraded on the latter. But most importantly, my Amberola 30 stylus has a small amount of black dust on it after playing the Chalmers cylinder. Is it indeed black wax? Should I consider it a cylinder that has a finite number of plays left on it? Thanks as always, Robert
