In the 4 spring barrel, 2 of the barrels turn as the spring unwinds, if the barrels bind on something this can happen. Also I had one where the shaft was bent so the center spring barrels didn't turn correctly and only had 2 springs worth of power. -Barry
Douglas Houston wrote: > This is a sticky one. I have a long shot thought. Victor has a procedure in > the service notes, that tells you whichn spring to load in the barrel, and > its direction of winding.Is it possible that one of the springs could have > nbeen installed in reverse? I'm not even sure if the motor could be nwound > if that were done, but as I've said, it's a long shot. > > I have one of those 4 spring jobs apart now, and I've got to study the > thing a lot before I re-pack the springs. > > (Maybe if you got one of those electric Credenzas like I have, you wouldn't > have this mess!!!!) > > Cheers > > Doug. Houston > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Ron L'Herault <[email protected]> >> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>; >> > <[email protected]> > >> Date: 4/29/2009 10:55:02 PM >> Subject: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem >> >> Hokay, list experts. I need help. The original problem was thumping >> springs. So, you take them out (done that many times) clean them, and >> reinstall/relube. This should be pretty straight forward. And these are >> > the > >> ones with the clip outer ends and bent over inner ends. They only go >> together one way. It winds up fine but only plays 4 sides before it >> > starts > >> to loose power and slow down when you try to play the 5th side. Sometimes >> it makes a bit of a scraping sound but nothing is hitting the turntable. >> What have I missed? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ron L >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From [email protected] Thu Apr 30 08:55:31 2009 From: [email protected] (Bob) Date: Thu Apr 30 09:01:16 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <82757b6148154cd28d5e2d2cc3f18...@your4dacd0ea75> Ron, Did you wind it fully and play it before you changed the grease to eliminate the thumping? If so how long did it play? A good four spring motor should run about 20 minutes. If it didn't, it's possible that the springs have lost some temper and are weak. The only other possibility is a bad record or needle but I'm sure you thought of that. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L" <[email protected]> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem >I do have an electric C. This is a repair for someone else. The neat > thing about the clip end/bent end springs is that it is impossible to > assemble them into the cans in the wrong direction. It is easy to mess > them up when you have rivets in the cans and holes on the springs. They > do > not wind up, and in fact will distort the spring centers, with the real > potential for breaking them. > > Ron L > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Douglas Houston > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:05 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem > > This is a sticky one. I have a long shot thought. Victor has a procedure > in > the service notes, that tells you whichn spring to load in the barrel, and > its direction of winding.Is it possible that one of the springs could have > nbeen installed in reverse? I'm not even sure if the motor could be nwound > if that were done, but as I've said, it's a long shot. > > I have one of those 4 spring jobs apart now, and I've got to study the > thing a lot before I re-pack the springs. > > (Maybe if you got one of those electric Credenzas like I have, you > wouldn't > have this mess!!!!) > > Cheers > > Doug. Houston > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Ron L'Herault <[email protected]> >> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> >> Date: 4/29/2009 10:55:02 PM >> Subject: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem >> >> Hokay, list experts. I need help. The original problem was thumping >> springs. So, you take them out (done that many times) clean them, and >> reinstall/relube. This should be pretty straight forward. And these are > the >> ones with the clip outer ends and bent over inner ends. They only go >> together one way. It winds up fine but only plays 4 sides before it > starts >> to loose power and slow down when you try to play the 5th side. >> Sometimes >> it makes a bit of a scraping sound but nothing is hitting the turntable. >> What have I missed? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ron L >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.10/2088 - Release Date: 04/30/09 06:01:00
