If you notice the whole mechanism is much later than 1904. I think it was lifted intact from a portable and put in this case. I think the patent tag was added to cover up the original crank hole. Also the horn looks out of place. I suspect it is a repro witches hat horn for a cylinder machine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DanKj" <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
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It's a fake patent date, too.  Patents are issued on Tuesdays, but Dec 10
1904 was a Saturday.  Dec 6, yes - Dec 10, nope.


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Am I assuming correctly that someone even fabricated that name plate
claiming a patent date in 1904? or was that lifted from an actual Oxford
Jr.? No on 2nd thought it couldn't be real since the Oxford line did not
replace Harvard until a few years later.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Horenstein" <[email protected]>
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Well, the Phillips type screws are pretty much a giveaway, is my guess

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=A
DME:X:RTQ:US:1123


What in the world is this? The Oxford Jr. is suppose to be actually a
Columbia Model AP Cylinder type Graphophone at least that is what shows up
in my Sears 1908 Catalogue. The Machine on Ebay even has a round
Identifying
plate with a patent date of 1904, I don't believe Sears used the Oxford
name
for its machines and records until a few years later. Also look at the
name
on the reproducer, it is not Columbia. Are we looking at some sort of
weird
Craponola here??

Bruce
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