I must admit that I once shipped a phonograph through FedEx Ground, and they 
advised me about the antique rule. I wasn't sure what to do. But since it was a 
phonograph, the counterperson said he'd list it under electronics so I could 
get the full coverage. Of course if anything had happened, I am sure Fedex 
would have fought me on it. Since that time I haven't sent any phonographs 
through FedEx ground, just other items.
John Robles

--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Bob <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:31 AM

I used to use FedEx ground all the time.  A couple of years ago I sold a very 
expensive machine to someone on the west coast.  I wanted to insure it for 
$3000 but was informed by the clerk that the maximum insurance on antiques 
shipped FedEx Ground was $100.00.  On FedEx Air the maximum was $500.00.  this 
item was very well packed and I was more concerned with loss rather than damage 
so I decided to ship it Priority Mail.  It was more expensive but I could 
insure it properly.  I think this was about 3 years ago in January.  When I 
checked FedEx on line they had indeed changed the rules about insuring 
antiques.  It seems they were taking too many losses because of inexperienced 
shippers selling on line and not packing their items properly.  I'm not selling 
that many things right now, but at the time I stopped using FedEx for 
expensive  antique items.  Have any of you run into this problem?  I really 
like shipping with FedEx and would like to
 know if the insurance policies have been changed.  Thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs


I typically use Priority Mail or Fed Ex Ground. UPS has commonly damaged items 
so I don't use them at all. I have seen things fal off their conveyor system at 
the local shipping point.
I have only had one damaged item with USPS and none with FedEx Ground. The one 
I had with USPS was almost unimaginable. I double boxed a phonograph with tons 
of packing material, yet in shipping part of the motor frame was broken. It 
took awhile to get that claim paid.
John Robles

--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Abe Feder <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Abe Feder <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:17 PM

Hi All,
I hate to tell all of you this but there is no magic bullet. I have been in
the art business for 35 years and have used FedX , UPS and others and the
fact is that you gotta build a box that will take just about any form of bad
treatment. One of my nephews grew up working 1st for FedX -4 years and UPS-6
years and now works for a speciality shipper and freight company that deals
in special shipment of special goods. The stories he told of both companies
made my head hurt and no matter what shipper I use I build a box that will
make it almost anywhere and my last item still did not get there. They drive
a fork lift arm right through it and I used 3/4 plywood for sides. 3 months
later the customer got a ck for $15000.00. But they did EVERYTHING they
could to keep from paying the claim. Photos showing how the crate was put
together shamed them and a bit of advice from my nephew to stay on them at
least twice a week really worked.

For our phono's small units well packed under normal conditions should get
there. Larger units, either know someone who can get it back to you- or pay
the very high price of craters and freighters. On more expensive machines it
is OK but on standard ones the freight charge can make it really to
expensive to purchase a machine like a c-250. I am working through that on a
machine now.

But bottom line on a common carrier youse pays your money and takes your
chances

Happy New Year
Abe

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bill Boruff <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steve-
> FedEx does not always use kid gloves when handling packages. During this
> past year I shipped a banner front Edison Home in 3 boxes with each
> carefully packed to withstand any rough handling. One box was for the case,
> one for the mechanism and one for the horn. The mechanism was badly damaged
> when the tines of a fork lift went completely through the center of its
> box. The motor frame was broken into pieces and the bolts holding the motor
> frame to the bedplate were sheared off. It was the last time I shipped a
> machine via FedEx!
> Bill
> 
> 
> On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
> 
> 
>> I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says will
>> be sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground. I have had 2 triumphs and
>> an order of auto parts damaged by UPS. UPS is wonderful for small, light
>> parts, but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed by their automatic
>> alligator mouth sorting system.
>> 
>> Save a phono, use Fed Ex. Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect from if
>> there is an accident.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
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