The horn I received that was damaged was from a UPS pack and ship store and it 
took 9 months for the seller to get paid, then he sent me a check for $300.  

They actually packed it good but it looked like a giant gator chomped down on 
it.

I was the one who did all the work to get the seller paid so he could repay me. 
 I got the repair estimate that exceeded coverage.

I am happy to hear that some local UPS pack and ship stores provide excellent 
service.

Steve


> I agree Peter.  There are local UPS pack and ship stores that I have 
> utilized this same method.  Pack the item and hand it over to them 
> where they box it for shipment.  When insured for full value, they 
> cough up a check with no questions asked.  I believe my only claim 
> through one local pack and ship store was resolved in about 7 - 10 days 
> for about $4500.00.
> 
> Ron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Fraser <[email protected]>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 1:54 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
> 
> Actually UPS has a deal where if THEY pack it and there is a claim, 
> they pay immediately, no questions asked.  So what I've been doing 
> recently is pack the phono, horn, etc my own way (safely, thoroughly) 
> then hand that package to them for them to pack in a larger box (with 
> about 4" crush space in all dimensions).
> 
> I have had great success with this so far, and the one claim i had was 
> indeed paid lightning fast and with no questions asked at the stated 
> value.
> 
> Not sure what it's called, but your local UPS store will know.  Might 
> be something like "The UPS Pack and Ship Promise."
> 
> -- Peter
> 
> On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Thatcher Graham wrote:
> 
> > My experience with UPS is that they wont pay out any insurance claim 
> unless they impale it with a forklift.
> > They smashed a Micropoise tone arm on me a few months back.  I never 
> got a dollar from that even though the box had been flattened.
> > And yes, the forklift example is real.
> >
> > -Thatcher
> >
> >
> >
> > The Farmers wrote:
> >> I agree with this too. Although I'm not sure that it's easier to 
> collect from FedEx since I've never had any damage from them to find 
> out. FedEx also has much shorter lines to stand in for some strange 
> reason.
> >>
> >> Greg Farmer
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Medved" 
> <[email protected]>
> >> To: "phonolist" <[email protected]>; "Phono-l" 
> <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:35 PM
> >> Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says 
> will be sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground.  I have had 2 
> triumphs and an order of auto parts damaged by UPS.  UPS is wonderful 
> for small, light parts, but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed 
> by their automatic alligator mouth sorting system.
> >>>
> >>> Save a phono, use Fed Ex.  Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect 
> from if there is an accident.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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