That will work for the items that you are willing to spend the time and $$ shipping. I still would want to very carefully read the tariff to see just exactly what is and is not covered by the damage coverage.

Antique has a definition and it usually means 100 years old or older.

The tariff also usually states that it supersedes any promises, claims, or off-the-cuff comments made by any employ or agent that does not match the tariff.

If they back the truck over it or stab it with a fork truck you will almost always get paid no matter what it is or how old it is. Other than acts of obvious negligence UPS and the Post Office are a major pain to deal with unless it was registered mail.

Peter Fraser wrote:
Actually UPS has a deal where if THEY pack it and there is a claim, they pay 
immediately, no questions asked.  So what I've been doing recently is pack the 
phono, horn, etc my own way (safely, thoroughly) then hand that package to them for 
them to pack in a larger box (with about 4" crush space in all dimensions).

I have had great success with this so far, and the one claim i had was indeed paid lightning fast and with no questions asked at the stated value.
Not sure what it's called, but your local UPS store will know.  Might be something like 
"The UPS Pack and Ship Promise."

-- Peter

On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Thatcher Graham wrote:

My experience with UPS is that they wont pay out any insurance claim unless 
they impale it with a forklift.
They smashed a Micropoise tone arm on me a few months back. I never got a dollar from that even though the box had been flattened. And yes, the forklift example is real.

-Thatcher



The Farmers wrote:
I agree with this too. Although I'm not sure that it's easier to collect from 
FedEx since I've never had any damage from them to find out. FedEx also has 
much shorter lines to stand in for some strange reason.

Greg Farmer


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Medved" <[email protected]>
To: "phonolist" <[email protected]>; "Phono-l" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs


I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says will be 
sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground.  I have had 2 triumphs and an 
order of auto parts damaged by UPS.  UPS is wonderful for small, light parts, 
but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed by their automatic alligator 
mouth sorting system.

Save a phono, use Fed Ex.  Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect from if there 
is an accident.

Steve



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