Actually, "antique" used to mean hand made or artisan made, as opposed to
factory or workshop made. When the modern antiques business started in the
19th century and people began importing vast quantities of items from abroad
they used the word antique to allow items that were old and rare but not
"works of art" in the traditional sense (paintings, sculptures, etc.) be
classified. Back them something that was made by machine could not be 100
years old, as modern production was a new thing, therefore, an antique was
100 years old or older.
As time went on, people forgot why the 100 year rule was in place and just
referred to anything 100 years old as an antique.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Maeder" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
The idea that an antique has to be 100 years old comes from somewhere in the
Federal tax codes. When I first got into the world of antiques 43 years ago,
dealers were very careful not to call anything that wasn't demonstrably 100
years-old or darn close to it an "antique". Whether the tax laws have
changed or the field has become so watered-down by antiques malls and eBay
that it no longer matters, I don't know, but the 100-year measure was very
strict back in the 'old days'. One of the reasons phonos and most music
boxes, etc. were so cheap back then is because they didn't meet the grade to
be considered an antique so not many people wanted them.
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 19:18:21 -0500
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
An item which is at least 50 to 100 years old and is collected or
desirable due to rarity, condition, utility, or some other unique
feature.
Motor vehicles, power tools and other items subject to vigorous use in
contrast, may be considered antiques in the U.S. if older than 25
years, and some electronic gadgets of more recent vintage may be
considered antiques.
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:42:33 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
>
>
> I don't know about tariffs, but I've always understood the definition of
> "antique" to mean 25 years or older, not 100. A 1920 phonograph is an
> antique by any definition.
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:26:39 -0600
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
> >
> > That will work for the items that you are willing to spend the time
> > and
> > $$ shipping. I still would want to very carefully read the tariff to
> > see just exactly what is and is not covered by the damage coverage.
> >
> > Antique has a definition and it usually means 100 years old or older.
> >
> > The tariff also usually states that it supersedes any promises,
> > claims,
> > or off-the-cuff comments made by any employ or agent that does not
> > match the tariff.
> >
> > If they back the truck over it or stab it with a fork truck you will
> > almost always get paid no matter what it is or how old it is. Other
> > than acts of obvious negligence UPS and the Post Office are a major
> > pain
> > to deal with unless it was registered mail.
> >
>
>
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