Wikipedia is a joke. The generally accepted definition of antique, classic, special interest etc as it relates to automobiles is listed in Hemmings Motor news and was dreamed up by the collector groups themselves. Hemmings used to be and probably still is the reference for that and also was/is the forum for those groups. There is also a definition for trucks and its different.

As all of this was actually related to the compensation for damage to phonographs that have been entrusted to UPS/FedEx/USPS etc and it is a very good idea to go read their definitions of what is and what is not covered as that is what you are agreeing to when you ship the package. Not the DMV, Hemmings, old tax code, or the wikipedia.

That was my point and if some of you happen to think "Wow. What a waste of energy, getting so defensive over a definition." then when you do not get reimbursed for an expensive machine that has been gleefully destroyed by the shipper, don't complain.

The "antique plates" are for taking an older car or truck to car shows and not road use except in a couple of states. Then its for personal use including shows and demonstrations. The all are restricted as to use to some degree or another. It is more of a bureaucratic convenience as these old cars and trucks will not pass nor are required to pass the current safety and/or emissions laws. But the definition of antique/classic/special interest etc have been defined by the collector groups. Antique as it relates to cars and trucks is usually 1920 and older, or even older.



Steven Medved wrote:
Wikipedia. In Ohio you could get an antique plate for a car that was 25 years old or older, I suppose they figured it it hadn't rusted away it was special.
For me an antique car is one in the early 1930's or earlier.  It has been that 
way for me since the 1970's.  A 1955 Chevy to me is a classic, not an antique.  
I guess I am stuck in time.

The antique car crowd has very different ideas on what constitutes and antique car.

Where did you find that definition?

Steven Medved wrote:
An item which is at least 50 to 100 years old and is collected or
desirable due to rarity, condition, utility, or some other unique
feature.

Motor vehicles, power tools and other items subject to vigorous use in
contrast, may be considered antiques in the U.S. if older than 25
years, and some electronic gadgets of more recent vintage may be
considered antiques.

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To: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:42:33 +0000
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs


I don't know about tariffs, but I've always understood the definition of 
"antique" to mean 25 years or older, not 100.  A 1920 phonograph is an antique 
by any definition.


Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:26:39 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs

That will work for the items that you are willing to spend the time and $$ shipping. I still would want to very carefully read the tariff to see just exactly what is and is not covered by the damage coverage.

Antique has a definition and it usually means 100 years old or older.

The tariff also usually states that it supersedes any promises, claims, or off-the-cuff comments made by any employ or agent that does not match the tariff.

If they back the truck over it or stab it with a fork truck you will almost always get paid no matter what it is or how old it is. Other than acts of obvious negligence UPS and the Post Office are a major pain to deal with unless it was registered mail.

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