I will agree with Harvey.  I like 'em original. Many machines are in a state
where restoration is the only option. A restored machine that doesn't look
restored is art.
Mike

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:36 PM, harvey kravitz <[email protected]>wrote:

> Like others, I prefer an all original machine. I consider myself lucky if I
> can
> get one at an affordable price.  Most of my machines were restored basket
> cases.
> I restore them as though they aged 100 years or more. I call it forensic
> restoration. I don't like a machine that has been over restored. However, I
> have
> a Victor E and M front mounts that look brand new, that I bought from a
> fellow
> collector. They just look overall nice. I'm a disabled Vet on a budget, so
> I go
> after the project machines. I enjoy working on them, and it's good therapy
> for
> me.
>
> Harvey Kravitz
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Vinyl Visions <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 4:33:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Original or restored?
>
>
> I love original, but that being said, I really get a positive vibe from
> taking
> something that looks ready for the junkyard and "preserving" it for
> posterity...
> You never want to mess with a machine that appears original, working
> properly,
> etc. except maybe for some cosmetic issues.
>
>
> Two examples of necessary restoration: I bought an H19 Edison, which I hate
> the
> style of, just because it was sitting in an antiques shop for $60, with a
> grill
> broken into pieces like a puzzle and a huge oil stain on the top - but
> exceptional wood grain showing below. I spent hours on it and put the grill
> back
> together by first gluing the pieces to a heavy file folder, then cutting
> out the
> openings with an exacto and filling in the cracks with bondo. When I was
> through, I took it to a collector friend who told me it was the best H19
> grill
> he had seen in 40 yrs. The point is, I got something out of fixing it and
> then
> got rid of it to a new owner who was very happy to have it. It wasn't about
> money, because I spent way more time than the machine was worth, but I
> learned
> some valuable restoration methods. I also replaced a leg on a sad Aberola
> 75
> which had fallen off a truck and broke a front leg. Someone had nailed and
> Elmer
> glued it back together and it looked like s**t. It is
>  very hard to remove a front leg on an Edison because of the way it was
> built
> with pegs into the frame. A thin kerfed hand saw did the trick for removing
> it
> and I made a copy from a leg off a derelict no name phonograph. When done,
> you
> couldn't tell that it was replaced. Two mediocre machines were restored for
> new
> owners, but the education was well worth it for me.
>
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:04:37 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Original or restored?
> >
> > I am a great believer in originality. I'd rather wait and find a nicely
> > preserved machine than one that has been restored to "brand new".
> Granted,
> > some machines are basket cases and have to be fully restored, but I've
> seen
> > too many perfectly decent machines given the twice over too many times. A
> > good friend of mine once said that he likes his machines to be in the
> > condition that the original owner would have been happy with if it were
> ten
> > years old.
> >
> > Best to all
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Jordan" <[email protected]>
> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:06 PM
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Original or restored?
> >
> >
> > >I have always believed in keeping my phonographs in as close to original
> > > condition as is possible. Fixing them, but not stripping and restoring
> > > them.
> > >
> > > I'm just curious... Is that the norm with most collectors on this group
> > > or
> > > do you like to restore them to look like new?
> > > Tom
> > >
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