I guess one has to define mismatched works....... An Amberola 1A mechansim serial number matches a corresponding nameplate which is affixed to the cabinet. Cabinets are stamped with a different number which is on the lid, main cabinet, and on the doors. Without the nameplate on the cabinet, nobody can prove if the mechansim was or was not originally with the cabinet.
I would think the only reason why a nameplate matching the mechanism would be put on the machine in the first place would be for warranty consideration. I cannot see a dealer swapping the mechansim without also swapping the nameplate if the machine was brand new. I could see a dealer swapping out a mechansim without the nameplate if the machine was used and out of warranty. That being said, If the cabinet nameplate doesn't match the mechanism, then one or the other was replaced after the machine was new. If the mechanism serial number doesn't match the stamped number on the various cabinet parts, thats perfectly normal. Steve On Jan 11, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Rich wrote: > How do you explain original machines that have been in the same family since > new that have mismatched works? There are different shades of mechanisms and > for what those machines cost originally people were picky. If you expect to > find a period written record good luck. > > On 01/11/2011 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> I'd be most grateful to see period documentation of that practice. Can you >> direct me? >> >> George P. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rich<[email protected]> >> To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]> >> Sent: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 12:13 pm >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards >> >> >> Seems that after many of those machines left the factory the retail >> >> dealers swapped the mechanisms to make customers happy with the color of >> >> the machine. >> >> >> >> On 01/11/2011 10:54 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: >> >>> See my prior response, plus...my III mech and cabinet already have >>> mismatched >> >> numbers... >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> >> >>> -- Peter >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> >> >>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:44 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Jerry is correct about mixing a 1A and a III, but a 1B uses the same >> >> mechanism as the III. Even so, the number stamped into the III mechanism >> will >> >> not match that on the 1A/B cabinet. This sort of mixing& matching >> permanently >> >> separates mechanisms and cabinets, preventing the proper restoration of the >> >> original machines. I'd advise against it. >> >>>> >> >>>> George P. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: Peter Fraser<[email protected]> >> >>>> To: phono-l<[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 5:14 pm >> >>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola I vs III innards >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Does anyone happen to know how much difference there is between the guts of >> >> an >> >>>> >> >>>> Amberola I and a III? Hoping to do a swap into a Amberola I cabinet from a >> >>>> >> >>>> messed up III I have... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks... >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- Peter >> >>>> >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> >> >>>> Phono-L mailing list >> >>>> >> >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Phono-L mailing list >> >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Phono-L mailing list >> >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Phono-L mailing list >> >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

