I was looking under Victor phonograph and the caption says the first Victor the 
Second. i'll ook for it because it's in my watch section and I will post the 
ebay number.
Harvey Kravitz




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From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com>
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 12:16:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder


Harvey,
How did you find the rigid arm Victor? I searched under everything I could 
think 
of and it didn't come up... maybe that's why it's so cheap.
Here is another unusual machine that you don't see for sale very often:  
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vassos-RCA-Victor-Special-PHONOGRAPH-model-L-/110602410689?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c06adac1


The real problem with judging prices on eBay, is that it is not an auction. 
There is absolutely no point in placing a bid early in the listing, because you 
are not competing with other "bidders" like in a real auction. The only thing 
that counts, is what you throw in during the last 5 seconds of the listing and 
if you throw enough, you win.


> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:59:21 -0800
> From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder
> 
> It cracks me up what items sell on ebay. Several years ago, I bought an 
> incomplete Berliner on ebay for $750.00. I was missing the horn, elbow and 
> some 
>
> screws. I have since completed the machine. At the same time, a VV IX went 
> for 

> $1500.00!! Just recently, a Standard model F went for $6100.00!! Now there is 
> a 
>
> rigid arm Victor E going for $950.00 with a few hours to go. It could go up 
> in 

> the last few minutes of the auction. Those are my observations of ebay.
> Harvey Kravitz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: john robles <john9...@pacbell.net>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 11:44:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder
> 
> Yeah, I think you're right. I've seen good things go on ebay for nothing and 
> crappy stuff go high.
> I have a 5400 series BA that I tried to sell and couldn't get more than $20 
> after listing it twice, (it was a Hawaiian number) so I kept it. I just 
>relisted 
>
> it yesterday and its up to $42 already. So, as you say, go figure. 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jay Horenstein <jay.horenst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Jay Horenstein <jay.horenst...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 11:40 AM
> 
> I couldn't tell you. I had a early Vic I (mint) all original, low serial
> number, original small flower horn, and small reproduction bell horn (for a
> flawless display) on EBay, and it went for $625. At the same time a beat
> up, non working, no horn, nothing special Vic 1 went for $1500. Go figure.
> Recently I offered an oak spearpoint (make an offer) horn on on these phono
> forums, NO bites, but it went for $1250 on EBay. Who knows what goes on in
> the mind of a collector?
> 
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM, john robles <john9...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hello all
> > Well, after I had offered it here with no takers, I had listed my Theodore
> > Roosevelt cylinder on eBay, It used to be that they went for around $100,
> > and it only got up to $66. What's your opinion, is this cylinder (Social
> > and Industrial Justice) just that common, or is it the economy, or what?
> > Just wondering. I can seem to let it go for less than $85 so I think I'll
> > keep it.
> > John Robles
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