I'm talking about an honest description.  This guy didn't hide anything.
Full disclosure.  Everything was fairly and honestly represented.

There are hucksters out there who lie.  I have no patience for those people
at all.  They should be drawn and quartered.

My point was that a well written, honest (full disclosure) description can
and does increase a person's chances of getting a better price.
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:07 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph

A good writeup can sell sand to Arabs.

On 01/25/2011 10:23 PM, Tom Jordan wrote:
> I think that the detailed description is one of the keys to successful
> selling on e-bay.  I have never had the knack of doing that.
>
> There is a guy that used to live in California, then moved to Florida by
the
> name of Joe Urbonovitch who restored mostly radios.  He did a few phonos
as
> well.  He always did a full restoration on them. Never an original finish.
>
> His specialty was Zenith Oceanic models.  They did very nice restorations,
> made them look and sound like new.  However, his descriptions were
> unbelievable.  He'd give the history of the piece, tell about how he and
his
> Son did the restoration step by step.  He also had a little signature
thing
> that he did where he always photographed the radios with his coffee cup
next
> to it.  In every single listing.  He always got top dollar out of
everything
> that he sold.
>
> I think that a well thought out and executed description is one of the
keys
> to success on e-bay.  I own three of the radios he sold.  They all play
well
> and look great to this day!
>
> I'll never get out of them what I paid (bad on me), but I was never
> disappointed with his product.
>
> People love to have a talented sales person woo them and reel them in, as
> long as they are honest.
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
On
> Behalf Of Steve Andersen
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:22 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
>
>   I have dealt with hundreds of Edison Phonographs since 1973. I have
pulled
> them out of many places in all types of condition and circumstances. I
have
> had some which were factory defects and as a result were never used. NONE
of
> them ever looked like Firebottles. All of his machines would have to be
> protected in a vacuum chamber or submerged in amber to look that new. The
> odds of every machine he comes across looking identical in finish and
luster
> is simply impossible and defys logic.
> On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:07 PM, john robles wrote:
>
>> I didn't wanna say that...but I agree.
>>
>> --- On Tue, 1/25/11, Steve Andersen<ander...@tampabay.rr.com>  wrote:
>>
>> From: Steve Andersen<ander...@tampabay.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@oldcrank.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2011, 7:01 PM
>>
>> I have been watching Firebottles auctions for 3 years. The seller's
> machines all have the same identical finish and luster on them. In my
> opinion, he resprays them. His auctions always bring values which are way
> our of line and the bidding historys have a pattern of the same person
> upping their bids several times near the end. If it looks like a
duck.......
>> On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, harvey kravitz wrote:
>>
>>> I also followed this auction. I made a couple of posts in another forum
> on this
>>> topic. I can't believe how high this went. I can't sell a Standard for
> $300.00.
>>> Go figure. That seller must be laughing all the way to the bank. For
that
> kind
>>> of money, you can get an Edison Opera.or a Victor VI.
>>> Harvey Kravitz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jay Horenstein<jay.horenst...@gmail.com>
>>> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l@oldcrank.org>
>>> Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 6:42:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $6100.01 Edison Standard Phonograph
>>>
>>> I didn't watch this auction......why did it command such a high price?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Tim Gray
> <timsanti...@northstate.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow!  At least I know it was a honest auction. I have bought a couple
of
>>>> nice machines from the seller. I live 30 minutes from him and picked
> them
>>>> up. He allowed me to see some of his other machines and big radio
>>>> collection. his items are always very nice and they bring better than
>>>> average prices.  Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
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