Jim, sorry, I cannot get past your spam blocker.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Mercer" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols


Jim,
it doesn't sound like the pickup is the issue, although George Epple is the person to contact regarding these early types of "horseshoe pickups". It's possible that you have speaker issues that are fixable. The Peerless used a single wound voice coil as opposed to other speaker designs that used thousands of turns of #20 gauge copper wire in the voice coil. The speakers must have absolutely clean and tightened contacts or the work poorly. I rebuilt my R-1, R-2, C-1, and C-2 myself except for the pickup. These were the four radios or combinations that came out in 1928. Later models used a Magnovox speaker of more conventional design (green chassis). I like the Peerless speaker because of the very high quality and the unique but can be troublesome design. The overall chassis builds (copper color) are extremely high quality with the Jr chassis in all but the C-1 which has the Sr chassis. I'm curious to know which model radio you are using to play the pickup through. Since it is an R-1 or R-2 and has the Peerless speaker, I would unplug the radio speaker and plug into the C-2 speaker. Subbing out the speakers will tell you right away if you are having speaker problems. If not, the problem lies in the chassis itself. I'm going to contact you off list to find out more about why or how they do not play well. Once everything IS up to par the set can be fine tuned to get rid of other sound issues by adding proper damping to the amp, speaker, arm, and motorboard. Also, there is a "sweet spot" in positioning the speaker front to back to eliminate any boom. Properly restored, those C-2s should sound awesome. I use the C-2 as much as I do the C-1 because it's easier to load unless I want the added power of the super amp and two speakers in the C-1.

Bruce

(btw) the pickup should track at five ounces.





----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols


Right now my C-2 plays through an Edison radio using the same chassis &
loudspeaker as the C-2 & yes I had the restorer make the filter switchable
& do not use it on Diamond Discs.    Both of my C-2s have been "restored"
but do not play well. Can you all recommend someone who really knows how
to work on them?   (I have a 3rd, but the restorer kept its chassis which
was incomplete & I've been uable to get him to return it.)    Through the
Edison Radio using the C-2 turntable & pickup, Diamond Discs sound great!

Jim Cartwright
IMMORTAL PERFORMANCES, INC
"Austin's Eclectic Used Record Store Since 1971"
1404 West 30th Street    Austin, Texas 78703-1402 USA
(512) 478-9954    E-mail: [email protected]


[Original Message]
From: Bruce Mercer <[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
Date: 17-Mar-2011 2:05:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols

Thanks for that information and the matrix number. Both my C-1 and C-2
have
the same speed control knobs. It should be an easy thing to dial back the speed indicator on the marked backplate for those late DD and Needle Cuts
to
obtain an accurate 78rpm. I notice in the factory manual that they
recommended setting it at a comprimise of 79 rpm if primarily playing DD.
I
doubt the average consumer of the day couldn't tell the difference one
way
or the other.
 While on the subject of these machines, I'd like to know if anyone else
that has a C-1 or
C-2 switches OUT the filter. It vastly overfilters the DD on either
machine.
I rarely switch it IN.
Bruce


----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Carli" <[email protected]>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols


Possibly for new owners of the C-1 and C-2 Edison radio/phonographs,
which
were capable of playing both lateral and vertical records by just
flipping
the stylus?  -- one less step for new Edison owners to consider? --

And how late are we talking on Diamond Discs being at 78?  The Goldman
Band
discs in the 52630s play at pitch at 80?  I have 52650,a Frankie Marvin
disc,  but I haven't played it in a long time -- might check it --

Philip
________________________________________
From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On
Behalf
Of Bill Taney [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]; Phono-l
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols

Why did they record the final diamond disc's at 78RPM? Seems rather odd
decision since existing owners would have to adjust the speed of their
machines for these records then adjust back for any of the previous 15 yr
+
worth of records.
Bill


From:  Steven Medved <[email protected]>
Reply-To:  <[email protected]>
Date:  Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:22:28 -0400
To: Phono-l <[email protected]>, phonolist <[email protected]>
Subject:  [phonolist] 5700 series Blue Amberols







Hello lucky owners,

How do these sound?  Has anyone heard them played with the Diamond D?  I
recently rebuilt one with a new stylus, the diaphragm was still good.
Even
without the extra weight it sounds better so I assume the final Diamond C with the weight from the same casting as the Diamond D also sounds better.

I played an acoustic dub of an electrically recorded DD and there is a
difference.

Ron, the final DD records were recorded at 78 rpm so what was done when
they
were dubbed to BA's?

Best regards,

Steve

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