there is also a record album and records for elbert hubbard also i found the album with records in vermont interesting but not exciting In a message dated 9/20/2011 6:25:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
And just to add to that........Elbert Hubbard was on his way to England, on the Lusitania, to speak out against World War I, when it was sunk by the Germans......he didn't survive. Monday, August 08, 2011AN AMERICAN multi-millionaire has moved a step closer to realising one of his life’s great ambitions — solving the enduring mystery of the sinking of the Lusitania. Gregg Bemis, 83, who has owned the wreck since 1968, oversaw operations off the south coast on Saturday as divers began cutting through the hull of the wreck. It was 25 nautical miles south of the Old Head of Kinsale en route from New York to Liverpool in May 1915 when it was hit under its bridge by a torpedo fired from a German U-boat. The explosion triggered a mystery secondary explosion which ripped the hull of the 790ft (241m) vessel apart. It sank by the head in less than 18 minutes, killing 1,198 of the 1,959 people on board, including 39 children and dozens of Americans. The sinking caused massive controversy because the vessel was carrying civilian passengers, including eminent and wealthy politicians, artists, the art collector Hugh Lane, academics and businessmen. Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfgbmhojidcw/rss2/#ixzz1YX2wRsEr http://www.archaeology.org/0901/trenches/lusitania.html The nearly century-old debate about whether the passenger liner Lusitania was transporting British war munitions when torpedoed by a German U-boat is over. Physical evidence of just such a cargo has been recovered from the wreck, which rests 12 miles off the Irish coast in 300 feet of murky, turbulent water. Bullets from the ship now confirm it was carrying military cargo. Lusitania was sunk off County Cork on May 7, 1915. The attack killed 1,198 people, including 128 Americans, and helped push the United States into World War I. Ever since the ship went down, there have been suspicions that Lusitania was carrying live munitions. Under the rules of war, that would have made the liner a legitimate target, as the Germans maintained at the time. The British government has always been evasive about the presence of munitions on Lusitania. Two cargo manifests were submitted; the second, filed after the ship sailed, indicated there were light munitions on board. Some believe the ship was carrying much more, however, and that the British Navy attempted to destroy the wreck in the 1950s to conceal its military cargo. Now a team led by County Waterford-based diver Eoin McGarry, on behalf of Lusitania's American owner, Gregg Bemis, has recovered live ammunition from the wreck. Bemis was granted a five-year license in 2007 by the Irish government to conduct limited excavations at the site. He originally bought the vessel in 1968 for $2,400 from the Liverpool & London War Risks Insurance Association. This past September, Bemis's team used a remotely operated vehicle to penetrate the wreck. They were able to clearly identify a vast amount of ammunition in an area of Lusitania not believed to have carried cargo. The Remington .303 caliber bullets the team discovered on the ship had been used by the British military during World War I. Ten of the bullets were brought to the surface. "Further research needs to be conducted, but if the discovered ammunition was found in an area where cargo was not known to be stored on board, it strongly supports the argument that the Lusitania was functioning as more than a passenger liner," says Fionnbar Moore, senior archaeologist with the Underwater Archaeology Unit of the Irish Department of Environment, which monitored the dive. The bullets are in the hands of Irish authorities, who under maritime law are now responsible for establishing their owner. Further expeditions will search for additional evidence of munitions. "The charge that the Lusitania was carrying war materiel is valid," says Bemis. "She was a legitimate target for the German submarine." _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

