Please don't worry, no offense taken at all. I just enjoy talking about 
music...music teacher syndrome I guess :)
Yes, I agree about the conflict surrounding war music. Especially WWII music 
with all the extreme propaganda. It is interesting but a little strange. Truly 
a sign of the times in which they were written. I think they were trying 
desperately to keep the country upbeat in those terrible times. 
I do love jazz. I try to introduce my kids to early jazz as much as possible. 
The music is complex, original and so much fun to listen to and play!
 
Thanks again!
Melissa

--- On Tue, 10/11/11, Vinyl Visions <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Vinyl Visions <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you!
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 10:15 AM



I love the historical aspect of the music, as well. I guess that I'm stuck in 
an era (the 20''s), which seems similar to the 1990's with the stock market 
craze leading to the depression. That era produced some very good jazz. WWI is 
an interesting historical era, but I find it to be somewhat conflicting - like 
all wars. Playing catchy tunes at home, while people are being gassed in the 
trenches -- all for what reason? Same with WWII swing music... goofy lyrics 
apparently to escape reality. I hope you know that I wasn't making a critical 
statement regarding your taste in music...

> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:49:33 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you!
> 
> Hi,
> Thanks for the comment. We actually listen to a lot of jazz. I am a band 
> teacher and have a jazz band at school. We play music from the 1920's on. We 
> have a 1940's jukebox at home full of jazz. 
> However, at the moment, I am really enjoying these quirky songs from the WW1 
> era. it is something different and it really shows what the mentality was 
> back in the early 1900's. Being a history person, I just love the lyrics. I 
> love how they sing about sending soldiers cigarettes and candy. I find these 
> songs interesting, cute and catchy. 
> Melissa
>  
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/10/11, Vinyl Visions <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Vinyl Visions <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you!
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, October 10, 2011, 11:22 PM
> 
> 
> 
> The machine is great... but the music leaves a little to be desired. Try some 
> 20's Jazz or Blues. Coon Sanders or Irving Aaronson and his Commanders would 
> be great or even some Helen Kane (Betty Boop) to liven things up. Check out 
> RedHotJazz.com for some ideas... Just a suggestion - everyone has different 
> tastes.
> 
> > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:06:37 -0700
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you!
> > 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > Thank you again for helping us to solve our motor issue and for all the 
> > comments about whether or not to restore our Victor II. It looks like we 
> > will take our time searching for parts and restore the II. We will let you 
> > all know how it comes out.  The Victor III was our first outside horn 
> > Victor machine so we are so happy to have it working. There is an old 
> > repair to the spear tip oak horn that we will need to deal with and we 
> > would like to have the tone arm re-plated but for now we are just happy to 
> > hear it play! :)
> > Below are links to a video of our now working Victor III and our Home Model 
> > D with wood grained metal cygnet playing our first ever royal purple 
> > cylinder. Thank you again for all of your help! 
> > Melissa
> > Victor III
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHjh_Xfw1n0 
> > Home Model D
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lADxtbyrJY 
> >  
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 10/9/11, Vinyl Visions <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Vinyl Visions <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you!
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Sunday, October 9, 2011, 9:49 PM
> > 
> > 
> > You should be able to find the parts to complete it for several hundred 
> > dollars. Since you only have $75 in it... I would restore it - it's 
> > definitely worth more than the parts "should" cost and a Vic II is a great 
> > machine.
> > 
> > > Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 16:37:47 -0700
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you!
> > > 
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > > Thank you so much for the outpouring of support last weekend when our new 
> > > Victor III motor was giving us so much trouble! 
> > > We went to an antiques auction last Monday and won a very poor Victor II 
> > > for only $75.00. We replaced our Victor III drive gear with the one on 
> > > the Victor II and presto! 
> > > It turns out we have a bad drive gear on the Victor III!!  It now works 
> > > like a charm! Many people guessed that the gear was maybe an older 
> > > replacement part or poor reproduction and it turns out that is most 
> > > likely the case!
> > > The wooden horn sounds fantastic and it is so loud! I am going to post a 
> > > video of it playing tomorrow. 
> > > The Victor II needs a new tone arm, back bracket, crank, connector for 
> > > the horn and now a new drive gear in order to be restored. The case is 
> > > okay and since we only paid $75.00 for it, we are tempted to put the work 
> > > and parts into it to get it running again. Do you think it is worth 
> > > fixing up or are the parts going to cost more than it is worth 
> > > eventually? Your opinions are greatly appreciated.
> > > Thank you again for all the help and advice!
> > > Melissa
> > > --- On Mon, 10/3/11, Melissa Ricci <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: Melissa Ricci <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Clarification of Victor III Motor Question
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 12:00 PM
> > > 
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >  
> > > First let me say that I truly appreciate all the great suggestions and 
> > > help offered for our problem. I am writing this to everyone because I 
> > > have received these same suggestions from many, many people. So I would 
> > > like to clarify what we have already tried.
> > >  
> > > We have already:
> > >  
> > > 1. Adjusted the drive gear up and down (above, below and on the center of 
> > > the worm gear) to try to get it to mesh with the governor worm gear 
> > > better.
> > > 2. Made sure that no set screws or parts of the governor are hitting 
> > > anything when in operation.
> > > 3. Made sure the ball bearing is present in it's spot.
> > > 4. Turned the drive gear upside down.
> > > 5. All part are clean, lubricated and move freely with no friction until 
> > > the drive gear is mated with the governor worm gear. 
> > >  
> > > I hope this helps. Thank you again for all the suggestions. Please keep 
> > > them coming! If you have an idea, we would love to hear it. We are going 
> > > to look at it more when we get home from work this evening.
> > >  
> > > Thank you,
> > > Melissa
> > > 
> > > --- On Mon, 10/3/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III Motor Question
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: Monday, October 3, 2011, 11:02 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Get or borrow an adjustable strobe light to visually "freeze" the parts 
> > > at  
> > > the time of the click.  I have solved a few hard ones like this with a  
> > > strobe.
> > > 
> > > Don
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 10/3/2011 8:48:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > > [email protected] writes:
> > > 
> > > And/or  does the bull gear and spring can assembly move freely?
> > > 
> > > Ron  L
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]  [mailto:[email protected]] 
> > > On
> > > Behalf Of Melissa Ricci
> > > Sent:  Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:42 PM
> > > To: Phono-l
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  Victor III Motor Question
> > > 
> > > Is the bull gear attached to the spring  barrel?
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