Let's see... if you charged each of us downloaders a dollar...     Anyway, the 
Nutcracker songs are really nice!

Jim Nichol

On Dec 17, 2011, at 4:19 PM, DanKj wrote:

> I'm pleased to report that this is the most popular thing I've ever posted to 
> the Box site;  every few minutes, I get another notice that it has been 
> downloaded!
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Carli" 
> <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nutcracker Suite
> 
> 
>> Nice to hear your good opinion of the Befer transfers; they're done by my 
>> friend Bob Hodge, their chief engineer, who's very particular and works like 
>> blazes trueing things up on their Archeophone (as much as the management's 
>> time frame and the cylinders themselves will allow him to be - I've worked 
>> with him on cylinder projects, and some BA's just won't completely true).  
>> He also transfers at 1/2 speed for steadiness, then doubles for finishing.  
>> I'll pass along the good word; he's a superb technician with great "ears" 
>> who doesn't receive enough positive feedback, and your thoughts will cheer 
>> him considerably.
>> 
>> The DD _Nutcracker_ stayed in the catalogue until at least 1926, if not till 
>> the end, as they're in the 1925 catalogue; I have a paper label copy of the 
>> first disc and a quiet late etched copy of the second.  The committee at 
>> West Orange which passed on DDs made some strange decisions which affected 
>> couplings and completeness (especially later on), but at least Sodero was 
>> the only Edison staffer who was given carte blanche as to repertoire 
>> selection. (One coupling was undoubtedly done for economic and logistical 
>> reasons; Sodero's 1916 ASO "Henry VIII" Dances by Edward German are given 
>> complete, but nos. 1 & 3, the most heavily orchestrated, are one side, and 
>> the lightly scored pastoral no. 2 on the other. )  Sodero was often a 
>> brisker conductor than his successor Irwin Schloss, who did the electrical 
>> Grieg and most electrical Edison orchestrals.  Carlo Peroni also conducted a 
>> few electrical DD's, and his are excellent - the other Xmas Edison we play 
>> is his 1928 "Dream Pant
 omi
>> me" from _Hansel & Gretel_ coupled with the "Pastoral Symphony" from _The 
>> Messiah_.  I have 4 of the 5 London Edison NMB _Nutcracker_ cylinders 
>> myself, and enjoy them as well; in case you're wondering, they're conducted 
>> by George W. Byng, the London studio's music director.
>> 
>> A very merry Christmas to you! P. Carli
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf 
>> of Dan Kj [[email protected]]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:10 AM
>> To: [email protected]; Antique Phonograph List
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nutcracker Suite
>> 
>> I have the 2 Edison discs, but they are rather noisy pressings;  it would
>> be nice to find later paper-label pressings - if they were in the catalogue
>> long enough.   I recently bought (and overpaid, but I didn't know)  an
>> electric Edison of the Peer Gynt Suite, and although 2 discography sources
>> showed it to be similar to the acoustic Edison with 2 parts on each side, it
>> actually has just "Morning" and "Ase's Death" played so slowly and
>> lugubriously that they almost fill each side!    They did something similar
>> a couple of years earlier,  with Victor Herbert's Suite of Serenades - even
>> though all 4 parts would easily fit on 2 Edison sides, only 2 parts were
>> recorded with a lot of wasted blank space.
>> 
>> Back to the Nutcracker:  5 decent Edison cylinders from the London branch.
>> Although played by the "National Military Band",  the harp part was wisely
>> retained in Waltz of the Flowers.  My copy of Flowers looks new, but has a
>> waver that makes the harp unpleasant to hear;  the Syracuse University
>> Belfer Lab people have overcome most wavering on most of their transfers, so
>> this is quite enjoyable.    All in one zipped folder, for your convenience:
>> http://www.box.com/s/xjg5yibnpno8sygv561y
>> 
>> Do check the Belfer site - the transfers are excellent, and you are allowed
>> to download all of them.  No telling when anything on the Internet might
>> disappear, so save save save.
>> 
>> http://library.syr.edu/splash/cylinders/
>> 
>> 
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