G160186's ID plate is the same.
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:49:35 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison GEM Model B 1903
>
>
> Since I have never studied a patent tag on a GEM before, I don't know if this
> is normal:It says - "Manufactured under the patents of Thomas A Edison, et
> als, Orange, NJ, USA"Last date: 11/17/03Serial: G156951
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:26:53 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison GEM Model B 1903
> >
> >
> > Hello Curt, Edison-Bell Consolidated Phonograph Company, Ltd This
> > London-based company was formed in London during March 1898, as a
> > reconstruction of the Edison-Bell Phonograph Corporation, Ltd., itself the
> > successor to the Edison United Phonograph Company. Until 1903 Edison-Bell
> > purchased its phonographs from the Edison Phonograph Works, but strained
> > relations led Edison to deal directly in Britain under the National
> > Phonograph Company, Ltd. In 1909 Edison-Bell went into receivership. Its
> > assets were later purchased by James E. Hough, who reorganized the company
> > as J.E. Hough, Ltd. According to this Edison sold machines in England
> > after 1903. The Edison Model B came out in October 1905 in the US or
> > December 1905 in England. If you give me the C serial number I will have
> > an idea of the year the C was made. I do know the Edison Bell machines
> > were diffent as was the Edison Bell Model C copy New Model. With the horn
> > the spun aluminum one is European and is found on t
he
> E
> > dison Bell Gem so I THINK it would have been shipped without the horn and
> > one added in England, but I do not know. I wonder if the blue and green
> > cygnet horns in Austraila were made by Edison? Edison did not have the
> > large horns until 1907 when he had the Tea Tray Company make horns for him
> > with Edison decals and black piant. So any Edison phonograph sold before
> > the Edison decalled TCT horns that have a large horn would have one from
> > another company. Steve
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:26:37 -0500
> > > Subject: [Phono-L] Edison GEM Model B 1903
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently acquired a GEM in fantastic condition - 90-95%, in good
> > > working order and correct "C" reproducer. The story that I was told is
> > > this: It came from a family who apparently moved from London to North
> > > Carolina. It has the typical GEM ID tag, not Edison-Bell, but supposedly
> > > has the original horn, which is spun aluminum with a brass collar and is
> > > marked "Warranted London Made". Does anyone have any info about these
> > > machines that were sold in England? Is this the correct type of horn, or
> > > would it have shipped with the tin version, or no horn at all and then
> > > fitted with this type?Curt
> > >
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