I am completely in favor of restoring and preserving these wonderful
machines for future generations.  I was simply commenting that the crew at
American restorations ripped this guy off big time.  $4,500.00?  Please....
Their idea of restoring an Edison motor is to submerge it in solvent and
scrub the outside to look shiny.  That is not a proper restoration.  That is
setting the owner up for future headaches.

We have a multitude of talented, knowledgeable and kind hearted people on
this list that could have helped him achieve his dream for a fraction of the
price.  Just one guys opinion...
Tom Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of GAYLE VOISINE, BECKY VOISINE
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 10:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147


In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond
disc  phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like
that they replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and
look like  Shit , like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a
lot of radios , phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and
I don't do shitty work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself,
as far as finished quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly
restorers who are on registered websites , that I would be ashamed to ask
money for.You people need to get a life and not criticise people who are
trying to keep something going on for others to enjoy instead of destroy ,
or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell as good working machine.
 I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but
parts.
     I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for
eterninty, but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up!
Stop being like a bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about  old
men! Thank you! Mr. Voisine.

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:25:31 -0500
> From: Tom Jordan <[email protected]>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale 
> restoration
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> 
> So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an 
> Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored.
> Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm...
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:36:34 -0400
> From: Jim Nichol <[email protected]>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale 
> restoration
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> How did it look after it was "restored"?
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Tom Jordan wrote:
> 
> > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in 
> > an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored.
> > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm...
> > 
> > Tom
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:34:54 -0400
> From: "DanKj" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale 
> restoration
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> 
> Ack. Last time I saw them touch a phono, they soaked the motor in 
> industrial de-greaser, never opened the spring case, and did nothing 
> with the reproducer. They didn't even understand that it was run by a 
> spring - they said it was "a flywheel". To top it all, the horn got a 
> hideous paint job that only a clown could love!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Jordan" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:25 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale 
> restoration
> 
> 
> > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in 
> > an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored.
> > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm...
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 05:07:41 -0400 (EDT)
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale 
> restoration
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> wow
> i will have to have my victrola 4 restored there what a bargain
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Jordan <[email protected]>
> To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 11:42 pm
> Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale 
> restoration
> 
> 
> So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an 
> Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored.
> Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm...
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:23:57 +0000 (UTC)
> From: [email protected]
> To: Antique Phonograph List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale 
> restoration
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> And 99% of the non-phonograph collectors who watched it are saying "How
Wonderful" ! and the rest of us are going absolutely nuts, that these
so-called experts are being praised for such an outright crime ! 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DanKj" <[email protected]>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:34:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale 
> restoration
> 
> Ack. Last time I saw them touch a phono, they soaked the motor in 
> industrial de-greaser, never opened the spring case, and did nothing 
> with the reproducer. They didn't even understand that it was run by a 
> spring - they said it was "a flywheel". To top it all, the horn got a 
> hideous paint job that only a clown could love!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Jordan" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:25 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale 
> restoration
> 
> 
> > So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in 
> > an Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored.
> > Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm... 
> > 
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