Hello everyone,

My best antique store finds are at least 10 years behind me.  but back around 
then, I found 2 Herzog oak half barrels (one w/orig. pegs) both with original 
finish, another one completely painted orange inside and out without the 
shelves (what a restoration nightmare!), A nice Triumph A with an extremely 
rare cylinder cabinet - it didn't have pegs, it had dainty little spindles with 
4 small wood rods surrounding the spindle which centered the cylinder. Now this 
find came as a result of a conversation with the store owner who had  these 
items on a picture on his bulletin board. Had I not told the proprietor I was 
looking for phono items, I never would have gotten it!  
Anyways, I also found a pink lambert for 5 bucks, a nice little Columbia AP, 
Let us not Forget cyl for 2 bucks,  lots of cylinders, a pristine 5" concert 
record, several horns, a couple of homes and standards and other odds and ends. 
 The best thing I ever came across, but wasn't able to get,  was a Regina 
Hexaphone! A small shop outside of Buffalo just got it in a few days before and 
already had a buyer lined up for it and wouldn't even entertain an offer for it 
- RATS!
All of these finds were located between Erie, PA and Buffalo, NY.  But since 
then, there was a rapid decline in good finds - probably due to ebay, and also 
a lot of shops closed up because of the big reccession around 2008 or so. 

So I too share most of the negative sentiments about hunting antique shops 
presently.  BUT, there still is that chance as proven in the prior posts!

Jim Reisenweber
Erie
-----Original Message-----
From: Vinyl Visions <[email protected]>
To: phono-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 19, 2013 8:20 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742


I agree with everyone who has had a negative experience with antique shops... 
he odds are slim and none. Most antique shops call pickers who they know will 
mmediately buy certain items, so the randomness of the find becomes very 
light. Same with flea markets, unless you just stumble onto something by 
hance. I have been in a flea market on the very first day and searched known 
endors for items of interest, only to find that on the last day of the market 
omeone bought an unusual item from a vendor that I had searched two days before 
 the vendor held items back to show to a certain person, even though they were 
ot already purchased by that person. That being said, I nominate Kinney Rorrer 
or my candidate of the collector with extremely good luck. Several years ago, 
e found a Victor 6 ornate horn machine cabinet in an antique shop for under 
100, but his best find was in Greensboro, NC at a junk shop. He walked in and 
ound an Auxetophone for I think, $135 - then the ow
ner of the shop informed him that that item was on sale for 20% off... 
nbelievable.
> From: [email protected]
 Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 14:25:04 -0400
 To: [email protected]
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742
 
 now  tim
 i just bought my second rollmonica with two cranks and a killer columbia by 
  in a local shop
 lol
 zono
  
  
 In a message dated 8/18/2013 10:30:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [email protected] writes:
 
 From my  own experience, stopping in antique shops can be more depressing 
 than  fruitful. In fact, I've pretty much given up, otherwise I'd have to 
 take  mega-doses of anti-depressants. The last time I actually "found" 
 something in  an antique shop was years, possibly decades ago. Of course, 
here are 
 always  the incidents such as John related which will fill the rest of us 
 with resolve  to stop at every antique shop, waiting for that 742 to appear -- 
> but I prefer  to enjoy my mental health and not trudge through aisles of 
 discarded  garage-sale glassware. I know that I may sound like a "snob" -- but 
> in fact  I'm too strongly affected by memory of what antique shops "used" 
 to be in the  distant past. What many seem to be now are repositories for 
 what DIDN'T sell  on eBay.
 
 Case in point --- My wife and I were visiting friends in  coastal Maine, 
 "supposedly" a good "antiquing" area. I was bored, so arranged  with a pal to 
 make a circuit of the antique shops in the area. Spent all day,  and even 
 attended a yearly antique show that was being held in a school gym.  Many, 
 many "group" shops, some individuals, but at least 20 shops were seen.  The 
 result --- ZILCH. Here's what I saw---
 
 Gem Roller Organ (doesn't  count, not a phonograph)
 Rollmonica (ditto)
 VV XI
 VV  IX
 Run-of-the-mill Brunswick
 Diamond Disc C150
 Some beat-up Diamond  Discs
 Crapophone
 Box that once held a Jewel Phonoparts  attachment
 
 So, I suppose the GOOD news is, me not stopping at antique  shops means 
 that everybody else gets all the good stuff I will be missing. I  should say, 
 in fairness, that my esteemed colleague Mr. Paul swears by  stopping in shops 
 and has found untold bounty in them. I guess somebody up  there likes him!
 
 Best to all, Tim  Fabrizio.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From:  bruce78rpm <[email protected]>
 To: Antique Phonograph List  <[email protected]>
 Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:12 am
 Subject:  Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742
 
 
 I have had that happen as  well, I think many of us have. You kept driving 
 by the 
 antique shop and  something was trying to entice you in, but you didn't act 
 on 
 it, and then  you found out something really special was there, but someone 
 else 
 ended  up with it because you didn't stop when you should have. It is a 
 sick  
 feeling that does stay with you, especially every time you pass the shop  
 again 
 and again. 
 
 ----- Original Message -----
 
 From: "john  robles" <[email protected]> 
 To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:38:40 AM  
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 
 
 You know what the  worst thing is about this? He is from Orange County, 
 which is 
 a couple of  hours away, but he found it in a shop ten miles from my house. 
 A 
 shop I  have never been to, but meant to go to on Friday! I would have had 
 that  
 machine if I had only gone in there when I meant to!!! Makes me sick...  
 John 
 
 
 
 
 ________________________________ 
 From: Tim  Fabrizio <[email protected]> 
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent:  Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:04 PM 
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the  Herzog 742 
 
 
 Well, all those Herzogs for cylinder machines used an  "internal" horn, 
 though 
 few seem to have retained them. I like Ken's idea  about replicating them! 
 
 Best to all, 
 
 Tim Fabrizio  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message----- 
 From: john  robles <[email protected]> 
 To: phonolist  <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:21 pm 
 Subject:  [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 
 
 
 Here is a pic, sorry, forgot  the link!  
 
 http://s197.photobucket.com/user/john9ten/library/Herzog%20742  
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