Hi Ron: Dubs are weird! I have some that are as loud and clear as "live" recordings but most aren't!
------------------------------ On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:39 AM PST Ron L'Herault wrote: >You are quite correct, Charlie. The degradation in sound is from the >dubbing. > >Ron. > >-----Original Message----- >From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On >Behalf Of charles smith >Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:07 AM >To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [78-L] Edison Special Amberols discussion > > >Hi Ron: My two cents. Some of the beveled ended BA's sound just as good as >the flat tops.Namely all of them up to about 2470 which are still "live". >There were also some "live" recordings released sporadically from when >dubbing took over until 1928. One Special recording ( the Peerless Minstrels >one,I think it's Special H) was re released around 1927 as "An old time >minstrel show"! I always enjoy the posts! Best,Charlie. > > > >------------------------------ >On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 2:02 PM PST Ron L'Herault wrote: > >>It's my understanding that a flat top Blue Amberol was pressed from a >>black Amberol master. They generally sound better bevel top ones. >> >>Ron L >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org >>[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Peter Fraser >>Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:33 PM >>To: ronald dethlefson; phono-l List >>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [78-L] Edison Special Amberols discussion >> >>Excellent! Any ideas on why some are flat and some beveled? I'll dive >>into the EPMs for clues as well. Did you touch on them in any of your >books? >> >>Thanks. Great to hear from you. >> >>Also CCing to the list. >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>-- Peter >>pjfra...@mac.com >> >> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:29 PM, ronald dethlefson <r2d...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> Peter, Please see Wendell Moore's Edison Phonograph Monthly Vol Viii >> 1910. The 24 Special Edison Amberol Series D Promotion records are >> listed there with catalog numbers and content comments. Six of these >> records were to be given to a person who brought in a customer who >> bought a new Edison phonograph. This plan was introduced in July >> 1910. No >>more than 24 cylinders were released for this plan, so I assume that it >>was not a success. Neither were these special Blue Amberol selections >>issued in the regular catalog. So they are quite rare and seldom found >today. >> >> Best regards, Ron >> On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Peter Fraser wrote: >> >> This is an interesting discussion going on, over on That Other List. >> >> Note especially the links to great scans of an Edison promo leaflet >> for >>the Special Amberols, directly below. >> >> They are cool and unique...indeed, special. I have assembled a set >> of >>the blue versions, and note that some are beveled and some are flat ended. >>This seems to indicate they stayed in production for a long time. >> >> Are there any facts available on that? Do they appear in any catalogs? >> >> (Including Ron Dethlefson, because I bet he knows!!) >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- Peter >> pjfra...@mac.com >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Darrell Lehman <nickja...@gmail.com> >>> Date: November 8, 2013 at 1:05:44 AM PST >>> To: 78-L Mail List <7...@klickitat.78online.com> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder?? >>> Reply-To: 78-L Mail List <7...@klickitat.78online.com> >>> >>> If anyone's interested... >>> >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6666461/SpecialAmberola01.jpg >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6666461/SpecialAmberola02.jpg >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6666461/SpecialAmberola03.jpg >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6666461/SpecialAmberola04.jpg >>> ==================================================================== >>> = >>> Ron L'Herault wrote: >>> I believe that you could also get some special records as a reward >>> for recommending a friend to an Edison dealer. If the friend bought >>> a machine, you got records as a reward. >>> >>> Ron L >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 78-l-boun...@klickitat.78online.com >>> [mailto:78-l-boun...@klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Darrell >>> Lehman >>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:45 PM >>> To: 78-L Mail List >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder?? >>> >>> The titles were the same - different labeling on the boxes and lids >>> though - "Amberol" and "Blue Amberol". >>> >>> >>> Michael Biel wrote: >>> When the wax Amberol cylinder came out in 1908 and again when the >>> Blue Amberol came out in 1912, Edison gave the purchasers of new >>> machines or converting kits a set of 10 or 12 cylinders that were >>> available only that way. They were "numbered" Special A, Special >>> B, etc. I don't think the two sets were the same recordings. My >>> reference books are too low in the pile to check. >>> >>> Mike Biel mb...@mbiel.com >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder?? >>> From: Clifford Bolling <78reco...@cdbpdx.com> >>> Date: Thu, November 07, 2013 9:06 pm >>> To: 78-l Online <7...@78online.com> >>> >>> I'm recording some Blue Amberol cylinders I got from a 2nd hand >>> store in La Grande, OR and one of them does not have a catalog >>> number, instead it says 'SPECIAL B.' >>> >>> The title is FATHER'S ECCENTRICITIES by HILL >>> >>> What is a SPECIAL B.? >>> >>> http://pdx78s.cdbpdx.com/CYL/SpB/tn-400_Label_BLUE-AMBEROL_SPECIAL >>> -B.JPG >>> >>> >>> Thanks! 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