Anyone else want to pipe in on this thread? I believe that the naming is still a significant issue. Just last week Jim - Jim fer diety's sake - made the is_set != isset mistake. All that I am trying to do is get a group concensus so that I can get some work done. :) --zak -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]