Guys,

I mentioned this in the conference.  Version numbers aren't going to change 
anything significant.  If we're concerned about the users' perception of 
what the version number means, moving to Jani's versioning scheme, I'm 
pretty confident it'll mean less to more people.  The reason being the fact 
that people are used to PHP's existing versioning scheme, which is the 
de-facto standard in the opensource world, and you should be quite aware 
that the vast majority of users will never read our explanation as to what 
the version number means, no matter how nicely we put it.  That's the 
advantage of using a standard.

I think that we're too harsh on the system we have in place right now.  It 
usually works.  It really does.  True, 4.0.7 lingered on for a variety of 
good and bad reasons, but even in this extreme case - we're not faced with 
a tragedy, but some dilemma, at most.  *Every* system has its advantages 
and its disadvantages, there's no perfect system.  Those who suggest that 
we switch should think carefully about what the gains will be, and whether 
they'll be worth the losses.  I have a feeling that currently people feel 
that 'anything would be better than what we have now', when in reality, we 
have a system that works at say 70% or 80% efficiency, and switching may 
very well make things worse at the bottom line (i.e., worse product for the 
end user) than they are today.

Zeev

At 01:31 11/11/2001, Stig S. Bakken wrote:
>Andi Gutmans wrote:
> >
> > Jani,
> >
> > I think in theory what you writes makes sense but it just doesn't work in
> > the PHP project. (I'm talking about the minor versions coming out of
> > branches). There are always cries to go with HEAD because it's got new
> > goodies (I think it often makes sense) and then people don't want to
> > release a second version out of a branch but want to use HEAD.
> > All in all the release process in the past few years hasn't been that bad.
> > I think the timing has been good and we haven't had *that* many screw-ups.
> > What I do think we need is a couple of people who will push things forward
> > once everyone decides that it is time to branch and start QA; so that
> > things don't linger.
>
>Andi,
>
>If we trim down the PHP distribution to not contain as many "goodies",
>chances are there won't be as many cries for head (no pun intended).
>The distinction between the second and third digit is basically
>documenting to the user the level of change in a release.
>
>  - Stig
>
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