> But my suggestion only produces rounding errors when the developer is trying to 
>operate on floats
> with results of precision greater than 14 decimals.  These developers should already 
>know they MUST
> use bc or gmp in such cases.  
> 
> You may say it should be "up to the developer", but there is no discretion that you 
>are leaving with
> the developer that can be meaningfully used!  
> 
> Instead you are saying that we cannot protect users who are using less than 14 
>decimals through
> rounding because of the potential loss of control for developers who are using 14 
>decimals or more
> who have ALREADY been told NOT to use this function!
> 
> This strikes me as frankly bizarre!  The current situation benefits noone! My 
>suggestion benefits
> EVERYONE except the small set of developers using medium/high precision (> 14 
>decimals) for whom
> these functions are already inappropriate.  They, therefore, lose nothing!  The rest 
>do gain, a lot!
> 
> REMEMBER: This is emphatically NOT the same case as rounding floats on general 
>arithmetic functions
> where the rounding errors can easily propagate, rounding then would be a VERY BAD 
>THING.  This
> rounding will NEVER "pollute" a float, since the functions/operators do not return 
>floats!
Stop crying.
I don't know what your cursus and/or specilities and I really don't care as far it's 
not the discussion. But you use php as a programming langage (yes it is), the problem 
with scripting langage for the web is the common people thinks cool, easy langange, 
easy learning curve, I am a programmer. In their dreams...MS meats the same problem 
with VB.

You have to understand basic concepts before starting to learn a programming langage 
(I dont talk about design and so on....), one of them is how to work with floating 
numbers.

A lot of people told you the how and why. You still cry about blah blah and blah. Take 
the all current thread, read it, follow the links (google), and come back if you find 
a real problem with php and floats.

My 0 cents.

pa






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