----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If you use caching software, chances are PHP will be faster than Perl even > without the optimizer.
Interestingly, Perl is getting bytecode caching soon, RFC 301 I think. Probably about time. > And it does that without any hassle or special > planning, unlike Perl for that matter. If you use the optimizer - it gets > as quick as Perl, and that's without caching. Couple the two together - > and you have a serious performance screamer. Yes, we have succesfully used PHP on a site getting 6 million hits a day. Granted we wished we could have used fewer servers, but with caching and proper design things can go pretty high. Performance wise I'd bet that 60%+ of folks are not getting even some of the obvious huge performance wins (static compile, cache + optimizer, reverse proxy in front if lots of slow connections, proper configuration and on and on and on). > That said, in most real world > situations, PHP will be faster than Perl even w/o these two. I don't agree > that Web apps are just made of small snippets like this. In Web apps - > database performance, output handling and caching play a big role, which > these code snippets don't measure. Couldn't agree more. But of course if one language in a similar space can get blazing speed in a little code snippet it's always nice to see if something can be tweaked to improve things in your favorite language. > FWIW, I agree with you that 'code in C if you need performance' is quite a > pointless statement, except for very specialized cases. One of the main > points in using PHP is *not* using C, because of dev-time, maintenance, > reliability, etc. etc. Yes, dev time, good docs, maintenence, reliabity outweigh performance concerns 90% of the time, and hardware is only getting cheaper. PHP's biggest wins are in some of those areas. What gets people riled up about these benchmarks is they see them as a whole picture slam against their favorite language, even if the benchmark is pretty clear about testing something pretty narrow which I think these are, they are remarkably honest for a benchmark. - August -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
