Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Zend Engine 2 has made lots of progress.

is there an up-to-date summary of the changes beyond the original ze2
proposal? example scripts that show the new features?

> Unrelated, I'm still waiting to hear exactly what mechanism the PEAR guys 
> implemented for PECL. I know that if it's not a really cool easy to use 
> mechanism I would prefer to wait until we write one. One of the main 
> strengths of PHP is that everything is bundled together and is easy to 
> setup. We shouldn't make it much harder on people. Although we're planning 
> on only move the unimportant extensions out of PHP I still think it should 
> be extremely easy to get a list of available extensions (maybe even a part 
> of the ./configure process) and to easily download/configure/install them.

having everything bundled is a strength for people who install from
source, but it really doesn't do much to help people who haved installed
from a distribution or are in a shared-hosting situation. those are the
places where something like perl's cpan really shines (and where the
pear/pecl stuff presumably will too).

i'd really love to see the existing pear/pecl stuff brought out into the
open more, even if it is not fully baked. i think the fact that it is
relatively hidden makes it extremely difficult for people to know where
things are headed, how close (or far) they are, and how to help.

(and 'unimportant' is a dangerous word. obviously that depends on the
situation.)

jim

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