On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 05:56:53PM -0000, Jim Winstead wrote: > Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Zend Engine 2 has made lots of progress. > > is there an up-to-date summary of the changes beyond the original ze2 > proposal? example scripts that show the new features? > > > Unrelated, I'm still waiting to hear exactly what mechanism the PEAR guys > > implemented for PECL. I know that if it's not a really cool easy to use > > mechanism I would prefer to wait until we write one. One of the main > > strengths of PHP is that everything is bundled together and is easy to > > setup. We shouldn't make it much harder on people. Although we're planning > > on only move the unimportant extensions out of PHP I still think it should > > be extremely easy to get a list of available extensions (maybe even a part > > of the ./configure process) and to easily download/configure/install them. > > having everything bundled is a strength for people who install from > source, but it really doesn't do much to help people who haved installed > from a distribution or are in a shared-hosting situation. those are the > places where something like perl's cpan really shines (and where the > pear/pecl stuff presumably will too).
I think a lot of people are installing from source, so it's very important that's easy to do so. Distributios are outdated and as long as you wan't "just" one new feature of the extensions you're bound to install from source anyway. > i'd really love to see the existing pear/pecl stuff brought out into the > open more, even if it is not fully baked. i think the fact that it is > relatively hidden makes it extremely difficult for people to know where > things are headed, how close (or far) they are, and how to help. The main benefit of the PECL is the independent release-cycle. It'll force less people to install PHP from source when they need stuff from a newly updated extension. > (and 'unimportant' is a dangerous word. obviously that depends on the > situation.) IMHO, all extensions should be PECL. If it's easier to have some extensions part of core PHP 'cause they're important, then it's a sign of bad PECL design. PHP should be the glue for SAPI, extensions (PECL, I hope) and Zend. No more. -- Adam > > jim > > -- > PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Adam Dickmeiss mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.indexdata.dk Index Data T: +45 33410100 Mob.: 212 212 66 -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
