> Umm while this sounds like a good idea initially, why are you trying to
> make PHP a closed development project? This maneuver will make it lots
> more difficult to get any new developers in on the project, and for those
> with one time questions to pose them.
>
> A moderated list might be a feasible option, but by making a closed
> subscrition system you basically end the open source project ideal.
>
I am not trying to make PHP a closed project. I just don't see why a small
number of individuals are making some of our biggest contributers go away.
Maybe some of you think that's justified.
> There are killfilies for this very reason.
you can't killfile after the event, and expect that to restore the time
wasted trawling through the list for important or good discussion.
>
> > - We need to have a list that is not full of bugs junk and cvs junk -
> > something for plain developer discussion.
>
> I disagree with this too. While the bug notifications are annoying, they
> provide at least an oppertunity to have more developers see them. Thats
> the best chance given to the project to keep the bug count down. Be
> honest, how many people write bug free code, or more specifically test on
> platforms other than their primary development choice? Not many.
I agree that bugs on the list aren't a bad thing - and yes, filters can be
used. However i guess too many people are filtering to /dev/null -
considering it more noise on the list.
My proposal is this: make the list open postable to those that have either a
cvs account, or if you want to go the whole way, to those who have the right
karma.
Then have all other posts moderated, or if no-one wants to do that, have
them deleted, in favor of only allowing people to post to php-dev from some
form online somewhere. (that might cut some of the crap out).
Really, as far as i'm concerned, i don't care. I still have enthusiasm for
the project, and for what it is. I'm just deeply concerned that there is an
exodus of strong talented developers from the project.
If that's not important to you, then just ignore this thread.
james
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