Regardless of what we call it, we need to light a fire under people to get
a new release out.  The fixes are piling up in CVS.  Stig, could you give
us a status report?  Do you still have time to push this release?

-R

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote:

> Ok then, I retract my suggestion to release 4.2.3.
>
> Zeev
>
> At 17:59 17/08/2002, Dan Kalowsky wrote:
> >I disagree that it should go out as is, very strongly at that too.
> >
> >Some fixes not in the 4.2 branches:
> >
> >- ODBC no longer crashes on Windows upon unloading
> >- while not fully tested, ext/java now works for 1.4 JDK's
> >- various memory leak fixes provied by Ilia (pack being one of them)
> >- a few misc fixes for Win32 platforms
> >- nsapi build fix which allows it to build and reported run again
> >   (although I still think we need to decide if we can kill this support)
> >- numerous domxml bug fixes have been added as well.
> >- QTDOM fix to allow it to compile again and run again
> >
> >This is one yet to be made, but:
> >- a potential fix to have 'make install' work on AIX machines again
> >   finally.
> >
> >These are just bug fixes.  I don't want to see new functionality added to
> >PHP for a potential 4.2.3, but I do want to see a LOT of these bugs
> >squished.  There is a fix, why go and release another version of PHP with
> >known and non-fixed bugs in it?
> >
> >It still doesn't seem to compile and work on 64-bit arch's.
> >
> >But yet again, there are numerous reasons why we should move to release
> >PHP 4.3.  The biggest of which in my book is, it supports OSX!  While
> >possibly a minor issue to many of the users on this list, it's becoming a
> >more significant issue, especially with Jaguar/10.2 being released in a
> >few days.  There have been numerous fixes to all the code bases in an
> >effort to get support for OSX implemented into them (ext/java still being
> >a bastard).
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> >
> > > I think it makes good sense to release 4.2.3 as-is (after a short QA cycle,
> > > that will ensure we didn't introduce any new bugs).  If 4.2.3 becomes a
> > > larger project, with more pre-requisites, I don't see it happening ("if it
> > > will not be simple, it will simply not be").
> > > The last time around 4.2.3 died was exactly due to this issue.
> > >
> > > Zeev
> > >
> > > At 16:47 17/08/2002, Dan Kalowsky wrote:
> > > >I have to disagree, a LOT of bug fixes have gone in.
> > > >
> > > >Honest I can run through the list of things I think should be done, and a
> > > >list of things that I think should be back ported.  None of it is new
> > > >functionality, all of it is fixes to bugs.
> > > >
> > > >And I still think the Tru64/AIX issues will need to be solved as well.
> > > >
> > > >On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd really like to avoid waiting this time, though (the enemy of
> > good is
> > > > > better...).  Even if we release 4.2.3 as it is in the branch,
> > without any
> > > > > further fixes, it's significantly better than 4.2.2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Translating this into action - my personal preference is to release
> > the RC
> > > > > as early as tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Zeev
> > > > >
> > > > > At 16:20 17/08/2002, Dan Kalowsky wrote:
> > > > > >Hrm, well a lot of the fixes I've been doing have only gone to head
> > > > > >because the belief of no 4.2.3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >There are still a few outstanding bugs I'd like to see fixed
> > before things
> > > > > >we RC.  Sfox and I (mostly her though) have been looking at the dbm_*
> > > > > >functionality on Windows.  We're questioning if it ever worked at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I can run through a list if there is a desire to see one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to raise the option of releasing 4.2.3 again.  I believe
> > > > that it
> > > > > > > would be quite a while before 4.3.0 is out, and there are quite a
> > > > few fixes
> > > > > > > in the 4.2 branch that should make the userbase as soon as
> > possible,
> > > > > > > especially the Windows userbase.
> > > > > > > I think that releasing 4.2.3 can be done within approximately
> > one week,
> > > > > > > with one RC, barring unexpected surprises.
> > > > > > > Opinions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Zeev
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------<
> > > > > >Dan Kalowsky                    "A little less conversation,
> > > > > >http://www.deadmime.org/~dank a little more action."
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> > > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> >
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