> > Then another item that might be considered if it is not already done,
> > allowing posts only from those that have cvs access. A second
> > conditional list of allowed posters can be added that are people who do
> > not have cvs access, but we want to allow to post. Otherwise, the list
> > can be readable by all. A post rejected message could tell them to try
> > a different email list, but if they really feel the email is for the dev
> > list, send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>
> This however sounds too restrictive to me. I'm convinced
> that the main php development list should stay as open as
> possible. The issue of a few misdirected emails should not
> serve as an excuse for closing down the main development
> list. We should not become an ivory tower.
>
Yes, because getting a cvs account is just *soooo* hard. We are more an
Ivory tower now, than we would be under the proposed systems.
Currently, unless someone points me elsewhere I only read messages from
PHP core devs. I don't have the time or the energy to filter through
the noise. Most other developers do this, being overburdened with the
crap ratio makes me put up a wall. If this list was moderated, ie, less
noise, more thoughtful comments, most people would probably be able to
read a lot more messages.
An Ivory tower implies a system dictated by an external force (wealth,
for example), not one dictated by merit. The roundtable is reserved to
those who have earned it.
> > it will be reviewed by someone when they get the time.
>
> This manual review effectively implies censorship which is
> undesirable in an open environment. I doubt it would serve
> the PHP community in any way.
>
It doesn't. They are free to send the mail to whomever they like, even
put up a website with their ideas. They are not censured, they are
restricted. In what country can you walk onto the floor of the congress
(parliament) without sponsorship? Entirely open infrastructures are
great when the community is small/growing, but when the community is
this size, we need to be pragmatic and not lose the forest for the
trees.
-Sterling
> - Sascha
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build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying
to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning."
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