Adam if you don't have anything to add please refrain from posting.
Especially if you are just going to post exactly the kind of
condescending comment Mike talked about.
Maybe you meant well here, but it's not coming across very well.
Best,
Jordi
On 27/06/2016 15:51, Adam Culp wrote:
Too bad. Perhaps once things settle down, or you find yourself more able
to cope with drama without taking it too personal, you might return. See
you around.
Regards,
Adam Culp
On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 4:05:49 PM UTC-4, Mike van Riel wrote:
Dear all,
In these last few days I have done a fair bit of soul-searching,
both the kind where you try to reflect how you sound to others and
on how others sound to you.
In my search I have heard voices of (former) members of PHP-FIG and
people who stick to Reddit instead of having an open discussion on
this forum with regards to how the current situation is dealt with.
And in those voices I have heard various half-truths and lies that
take on a more personal form for me.
The least is that this discussion is triggered by some sort of
dislike for Paul (as is said by Cal Evans, Evert Pot and some
others). Perhaps for some of the people on the complainers list it
is; I know that for me it isn’t. Not by a long shot. However; since
I posted a message in the thread people have become convinced that I
must hate Paul for I am on ‘the list’. And that hurts me. It also
hurts me that these people prefer not reading what I have written
and prefer to stick to their lies and half-truths. So be it.
My lefty convictions are probably quite unpopular with Paul and a
few others here and that should be OK; they may even dislike me for
it. Paul’s political point of views are his own; I do not have to
like them, I may even find some of them quite creepy but as long as
that stays out of this group than it should not bother me. As long
as I do not have to interact with this part of Paul than that is
fine by me; he has the god-given right to think what he wants.
As I have repeatedly said in the accompanying thread, Paul as a
person is not the cause of my dissatisfaction; his, in my eyes,
occasional disrespectful method of discourse is. So here I am;
repeating myself as if I were a broken record player. It is becoming
apparent that something is off but no matter how long I reflect; I
do not find the precise answer.
So far I discern two non-mutually exclusive options, but do not
discount others:
A) I am part of the problem; I see and hear things that aren’t there
or are far less important than I make them to be.
B) There are more people here who exhibit or enable behaviour that I
cannot accept in good conscience.
As Paul is attributed with a profound passion and love for PHP-FIG,
so do I hope to care as much as is attributed to him. If B were to
be the case than my passion for PHP-FIG would compel me to address
that or to find distress from such occurrences happening. The latter
is not good for my sanity and the former is, publicly, not good for
PHP-FIG; meaning that I end up losing either way.
If A were to be the case, or if I have become A because of B; then
no-one wins. Not me, not the FIG, no-one.
As such, I have chosen to resign as representative for phpDocumentor
effective immediately and in a few days I will leave the PHP-FIG
mailing list altogether. As much as I would have loved seeing PSR-5
become a reality I did not have the stamina or thick skin to see
that through. Unless someone else within the team carries the torch,
I will be setting up a version of it under the phpDocumentor product
as a description of the de-facto PHPDoc Standard as it has always
been. I cannot be editor if I don’t come here anymore.
As to the fate of PSR-5; I hope that someone else will continue the
work, it would even be lovely if I can contribute to it from the
sidelines but otherwise it will stay as it is now.
I wish the PHP-FIG the best of luck and the rest and stability that
it deserves,
Kind regards,
Mike van Riel
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