Hey Phil, On 1 July 2016 at 10:54, Phil Sturgeon <[email protected]> wrote: > Paddy: > > AFAIK, a few people - all active in this thread - reached out to Paul to > discuss his behavior before this went to a vote. This two week discussion > period is the time Paul has to answer peoples concerns. No pre-discussion > period discussion period is known to exist.
I can appreciate that, but it's still unclear whether Paul was notified of this vote/discussion prior to it being made public. It's clearly been brewing for a while, but has no statement from Paul, or summary of dealings with Paul, or...anything that could be construed as pre-existing attempts at mediation with Paul. If it's not documented, I can't assume it happened. > When you say: "You cannot write an email without input from an accused > member and maintain a neutral position.", if you are referring to the > secretaries then I would disagree with you. The secretaries are passing on > complaints from ~20 former and current members/contributors, not forming > their own stance or opinions. Anyone with that many people complaining > against them should be removed regardless. The Secretaries, to put it lightly, should have side-stepped on this. They are using their authority to achieve three goals: 1. Summarising complaints against Paul. 2. Calling a vote for removing Paul as a VM. 3. Limiting the discussion period to the minimum. Not one of these reflects an element of consideration for Paul's interests from an impartial position. While I seriously DO NOT believe the Secretaries intend to be biased, they have still given rise to the appearance of it anyway. That's down to a simple observation: voting members can call their own votes. A voting member could have done everything the Secretaries did (minus the multiple protestations of being impartial) and nobody would have blinked. The Secretaries made a choice to get involved and initiate this vote. They didn't have to. If they are going to involve themselves in complaints, they must figure out the best way of not appearing biased. They won't find that in the bylaws because...er...I neglected to write them. My bad! Paddy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/CALwr1Gk%2Bmh_bjtCMT9Nz5CnoVKvgMrBdcsQDSBV8STSPyQaC2w%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
