On 05.07.22 10:17, Alessandro Lai wrote:
What's the status on the spec? IIRC is basically complete, right? We just
need to push it to the approval vote...

There are still unresolved PRs regarding timezone issues.

The spec is in the same state as it was almost a year ago. Since then I have tried at least twice to get it towards an approval vote but neither the sponsor or the editor were responding nor was the CC taking any actions.

In at least the last try from my side to get to a readiness vote was also the option contained to take over the responsibility of the PSR. There has been no response whatsoever regarding that.

Cheers

Andreas


It would be a shame to abandon it now, when it's so close to the finish
line...

Il giorno domenica 3 luglio 2022 alle 19:15:37 UTC+2 Larry Garfield ha
scritto:

The PSR-20 working group has been inactive for many months now (it's been
10 months since any changes to the spec document[1]), far longer than the
allowed time for a working group to be inactive. The Editor, Chris Seufert,
has been inactive and unreachable via Discord in the WG's channel for
several months. The Sponsor, Chuck Burgess, has also not responded to
messages on Discord in the WG's channel.

Per the bylaws[2]:

-----
The Editor or Sponsor of a Working Group may step down at any time by
informing the Core Committee via the mailing list. If the departing
individual specifies an intended replacement from the Working Group
membership, that individual will assume the vacant role immediately, by
Implicit Approval. If necessary, a Decision Vote to appoint a new Editor or
Sponsor may be held following a suitable nomination period.

Should a Working Group be missing an Editor for 60 days; be missing a
Sponsor for 60 days; have insufficient active members for 60 days; or show
no signs of activity for six months, then the Core Committee may hold a
Decision Vote to name a new Editor or Sponsor, following a suitable
nomination process. One of the options in that Decision Vote must be to
dissolve the Working Group. If no suitable candidates for Editor or Sponsor
may be found, then the Working Group is automatically dissolved.
-----

At this time, the PSR-20 WG is inactive. There are four possible next
steps:

1. The Sponsor becomes active again and nominates a new Editor who can
complete the PSR and bring it to a vote. If there is a dispute over who the
Editor should be, the CC will hold a Decision Vote.

2. The Sponsor may step down as Sponsor, in which case a new Sponsor from
the CC will need to step forward. If there is a dispute over who the Editor
should be, the CC will hold a Decision Vote. The new Sponsor will then take
step 1.

3. Neither the Sponsor nor Editor are heard from, so the CC appoints a new
Sponsor and Editor by Decision Vote.

4. The working group is dissolved and PSR-20 is listed as abandoned.

Of note: Other current members of the working group[3] are eligible to be
the new Editor, but the Sponsor must be a member of the Core Committee.

If nothing happens within 2 weeks, I believe we should declare option 4
enacted by default and the WG abandoned.

(I would personally like to avoid option 4, as I really do believe this
spec is valuable and should be completed.)

[1] https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/tree/master/proposed
[2]
https://www.php-fig.org/bylaws/mission-and-structure/#working-group-management
[3]
https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/blob/master/proposed/clock-meta.md#53-working-group-members

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